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I'm pretty sure he meant maturity-wise, which is true, because the maturity of most Bnet players these days is equal to the maturity of the immature 4 year old... bah I keep saying mature...

Yeah - I was thinking about that archer ability
And the Terrorizing mind of of the Necromancer i Rebuffed it because it was WAY TOO WEAK. I didn't actually look at it =P
I will fix those in next patch of my map.

Thanks a bunch Laz for pointing out a few probs. I've seen a few complaints in the Templar which is understanderable but I'll see a way to nerf him.

Theres others like the Outlaw Marine with his angry mob ability and suicide bombers. But causing chaos and destruction is his purpose =P

<Next Patch Civilization Wars V.70 should be in by today if no interruptions for a while.> ¥^_^¥

PS - BTW what realm do you play in anyways Lazurus. Just interested - =P

I play on Lordaeron and / or Azeroth, just depends. :)

- Lazurus

hey Ak47_type_r everything that Lazurus says i agree. i have a couple of other comments also. The hero items that you can buy seem to me that they arent worth it. although they can give you a slight advantage over the other team it isnt much. Im not being mean at all because your map rules. me and lazurus play it a lot now. A question I had is if you are going to add more heros as the new versions keep coming. You heros already are amazing I just thought it would be cool to see more of them.

Captainpierre

Yeah - Im going to fix the item balance problem.
Alot of people don't feel they need the market place items due to they useless ness . I will try to make custom ones and even try to make them in order of they valueness. This upcoming patch wont have new heroes but the missile reactors and few bug/hero changes. In the future I'm hoping the expand and make more heroes. I have alot of them in mind but for me - the heroes take the longest to make =P because i want them to be unique and different from the ones you see already in Bnet.
Patch won't come today as planned because so many people come to my house! But it will soon - I have the missiles done already - Now I'm debugging and fixing hero abilities and item prices. So look forward =)

The New Civilization Wars V.70 is finally released as promised.

It has many futures and updates.

Civilization Wars V.70

Updates:
Missile Reactors Added!
-The Sided Players (Blue-Yellow-Green-Light Blue) whose role in the battle was to flank or hold the side position from enemy attacks. Now they will have a more significant role with missile reactors where they can launch several aerial attacks.
Tower killing now grant experience!
Hero Abilities Modified!
-Shaman's Bugged Secondary Spells Fixed!
--Regrowth is finnally fixed to actually heal the target unit. (I Hope)
-Shaman's Summon Campanion has been Buffed!
--The Summon Wolves will now be more reliable in battle.
-Vampire Mistress's Summon Dark Servants has been Buffed!
--Each of the summons have recieved a HP boost.
-Rogue's Pick Pocket has been Buffed!
--The Rogue is now able to Pick Pocket for a max of 500 gold from enemy heroes.
-Necromancer's Terrorizing Mind has been REDONE.
--New units will spawn under each level.
-Hunter's Spirit of the Hawks has been Nerfed.
--Hunter's Spirit of the Hawks spell damage is reduced to 10 from 20 dmg per sec.
-Holy Templar's Cure has been Nerfed.
--Holy Templar's Cure effect has been reduced.
-Holy Templar's Energy Blast has been Buffed!
--Holy Templar's Energy Blast's Radius has been doubled.
-Wizard's Teleportation has been Buffed!
--Wizard's Teleportation ability level is no longer based on the time to cast but the mana cost.
Quest Help (F9) Added!
-New Players - Please look in (F9) for help on playing the map.
Fixed Tooltip Problems!
Item's Are Now Worth Getting! (maybe - Cough)
-Fixed insane price for some of the items
Fixed Guard Tower Range
-Increase Range to match Watch Tower Attack Range.
Changed Tower Preferences
-Guard/Watch/Cannon Tower are no longer able to attack air units. This forces the player to build anti-air towers.
Added Anti-Air Towers!
-Engineer are now able to build anti-air towers to defend agaisnt aerial attacks. (Nukes / Missiles / Dropships)
Victory - Defeated Messages are Fixed!
-Improved Nuke Special Effects
-Minor Bugs Fixed

Phew - Here's list of future update plans.

3rd Party Units Added (Idea by Lazurus)
New Heroes
Custom Unique Items

Anyways - Have fun with new version ^_^

<Doesn't Patches Make Us Want to Cry?> =(**

Awesome! I like how you are giving each player different role to fufill, though I wonder if eventually you will remove the middle faction and simply have both forces face off against only eachother from the start to make things even more competitive, and have it so that all the middle functions can be requested inside one's base (Such as Requesting Lumber and gold would be done from there, but the Pack Mule's and Gold Wagons could spawn from where those Marketplace shops are, and thus the race to stop one side from getting wood and supplies would be greater! :)

But things are fine the way they are, if you decide to leave that middle faction in.

Another thought - What if, since each player has a different role to fufill, what if you made unique heroes for each player fufilling those functions? I know the idea sounds farfetch'd, but with a little polishing, it might work, and I think that each hero should have some special bonus that goes along with picking that hero over another one (Outlaw Marine could randomly recieve mercenary units, or he could start with a permanent trueshot aura, or the archers his command post spawns could be some special version of the original, ect.)

As for each player's classes being unique, you could have it so that the first player on each team has access to the leader-ish type classes (You could go into modern ones like Dictators, Presidents, Warlords, or stick with your theme and just edit existing ones, like changing the Necromancer into a Dark Lord or a Mage-King, ect. Anything goes here) and the ones controlling the missle reactors could have the supporting / stand-alone heroes, such as the Outlaw Marine or the Enchanter, ect. and the other players could be in charge of directing the armies and could have General - Type characters, ect. Things like that. Just trying to give you some inspiration, though it seems like it could be alot of work for you >.<

Two other notes, the Enchanter needed a slight buff. He's kinda difficult to play in the early game, so I'd recommend giving all his spells a cost reduction, making his disturbing illusions permanent \ last long, and making his charm spell permanent or something of that nature, timed charm is no fun unless its on a hero! He should have a nicer array of secondary spells such as Slow, ect. too. He's hard to manage currently.

Also, what do you think of this type of spy unit - Hacker (He'd need the three full upgrades of the Command Post to get) Permanently invisible spy unit with no attack who can go up to enemy buildings, and remain there for 25 seconds before converting control of the building (not the castle, of course) to the other player. Any good?

- Lazurus

LOL Lazurus

I love how you are coming up with these CnC like units.

I've thought something like hacker where he can stand near command posts or something and steal money liittle by little.

Makes players make good use of spies / flares / reveal.

You're ideas are unique and inspirational. I will have to see if I will go down that route - Although it will make it more of a Civ War game. Currently the Enchanter owns =) I love him along with many others. He just have a slight problem at beginning unless you use strategies like me. When i use enchanter i quickly take out the damaged watch tower in the middle. Quickly charm the engineer nearby next to the other tower ( exactly when your first wave of units spawns) and build a watch tower quickly where the old enemy watch tower was. It gives a quick advantage for your team and an early large sum of gold for you. If you can keep the tower up.

I usually end up with alot of gold because i play WAY too much and i know how the units work. =)

This version will of course need Anti Air towers. Especially for middle because it is easier now to retake over the middle than previous versions. Enemy team thought they won for sure until we strike wave after waves of missiles into the fortress taking out their towers and outpost. Sending in waves of units to retake what was supposely ours. >.<

I stayed behind in the teching to build many Anti Air towers around the base to prevent what we did to them to us. It held pretty well and we ended up nuking them. ^_^

Oh yeah - I love the new special effects for the nuke. So awesome.

<Blah - I'm talking like im a big fan of the map now... >

PS: I sent your map to your email Lazurus with your trigger - Check your PM for additional message too. ¥^_^¥

Hey people. Although running into some fatal error troubles. I managed to get another one out. =P - Thanks to some people of the www.wc3campaigns.com community.

Anyways I hope you guys like the newer version the best. I has optional settings for the problems people unable to handle the lag with too many units doing too many things at once on the screen. ( I never lagged! >.< ). I'll just like to thanks Lazurus for the idea of clearning middle to have a more of a pvp competition, instead of trying to race to middle. I know alot of people liked the original way better as well. So i set up 3 options you can set your game style to. Download and Enjoy!

List of updates:

Civilization Wars V.80

Updates:
New Items added!
-Toy Doll
--Increases experience rate by 150% (Unstackable)
-Bandit King's Golden Ring
--Player recieves +15 Gold Per Kill (Stackable!)
-Shady Tracking Device
--Tracks the Shady Dealer from anywhere on the map!
-Assassin's Blade!
--+5 attack; +Slow Poison
-Signal Device
--Deploys a dropship at your position to attack enemy castle
-Stained Cloak
--Right click cloak to recieve vampiric effect buff temporarily (infinite charges)
-Many Many More! (Hero's Weapons & More)
New Shop Added!
-Look for a shady character selling his shady items. (Moves around)
Hostile Drops!
-Akama now drops possible random items upon his death!
New Game Settings
-Normal, No Towers, or Sudden Death ( For Middle Hostile) [Thank you for Idea, Lazurus]
Hero Abilities Modified
-Iceland Berserker is Buffed!
--Iceland Berserker recieved a stat boost.
-Honor Guard is Buffed!
--Honor Guard recieved a stat boost.
Costs of Dropship at Outpost has been reduced!

Wow, that's a nice way to accomedate everyone :)

I'll have to play this with my friends when they get back. The new items sound great!

- Lazurus

The new things i added. Seems to fall into alot of bugs. (well not many) But i spotted some. Unlike me! (slaps himself) >.<

I'll fix it asap - I've been looking around on the internet for wall scrolls and a tsurugi for my room. I'm back now - maybe, college starting in a few days lol.

I heard alot of laggyness is occuring. I never ever experienced it until my recent patch. So my advice is play -Sudden Death option mode until i fix the other 2. It seems to generate alot of lag. My focus on next patch is to reduce the lag and maybe take out all the hostiles and make them do what player base does (spawn units and attack) unstead of trying to clear them out like a spawn camp.

Maybe this time i will have time to add Lazurus's idea.

Please post suggestions and comments. I like to see how people like this map. Thanks for the comments over bnet and emails though. Was very kind of you guys. ^_^

Heres a short updated version of C Wars V.90.

It doesn't seem much of an update but it does reduce the lag quite a bit and the game style for normal isn't the same anymore for those who played previous versions. I'm glad to know people like the idea of No towers and Sudden Death options. I hope this version tones the lag down quite a bit more than usual. If it still feels laggy that it could use a change. Replay. I think i might of added a bit much hostile units when they spawn. Not sure. But i dont lag -=) but it doesn'nt matter if i lag - but you guys who play it more than me!

List of Updates:

Civilization Wars V.90

Updates:
Akama Illusion Bug Fixed
-Enchanter can no longer exploit bug where creating illusion of Akama to force extra drops.
Beginning Message Fixed
-Message no longer fades before the players are able to read the message.
Middle Fortress is cleared of hostile units to clear up lag.
-Middle will now spawn units to attack player base.
Removed Debug Messages left behind.
New Game Setting Options
-Renewed Game Setting to fit new fortress settings.

<Its great that you used endless armageddon on me, but do you have enough money to get anti air towers for my nuke?> >.<

Please post comments - Be huge help ¥^_^¥

(Final Version will come out soon)
I just need to finish debugging every detail.

Could you post a shot please?:D

there is a problem with the newest version, the middle is way too strong.
also when a player leaves you should make it so it divides the resources of that player.

C Wars V.90 just released not too long ago. So I don't know how strong the middle is yet. Also when the player leaves. His resources isnt supposed to be split among his teammates. Thats the purpose to use his command post to continue upgrading his units spawned under him or it will leave your team dangerously behind.

If anyone can post screenies of the map for me that would be great. Although im very intune with the game, i never reallly made screenies of anything =(. Yes yes i know - Shame on me.