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07-24-2004, 06:59 PM#286
HexenLordX
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Originally Posted by -Ragnarok-
yeah its a big bummer blizzard made it so you cant make an anti cheat system simply with triggers. found out the hard way by making every single cheat code for every single player, which was like 200 events on one trigger. Very simple but a pain in the ass, especially when i tested it and found it wouldnt work. Osiris can probably help. FM's maps usually have done everything that actually takes some mapping skills. I do belive i had a Wc3 editor at one point that actually had added an event that said "If player 1 enters a cheat code" but that was a while ago. Im going to look into it. I'll also go to the FM forums and ask around about it.

Pretty funny that rtm-2 wants to be my triggerer yet he PMs me asking me how to use WE Unlimited and saying he can only do learderboards.

I'm trying to develope and anti-cheat system, although I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to do it. I've recently tried using the Iseedeadpeople cheat on b.net and I've never got it to work. So maybe I can take a look at another map and see if I'll be able to get it to work like they did. If not, I know of another way but its gonna take about 25 events per trigger.
07-24-2004, 07:05 PM#287
-Ragnarok-
I messaged Osiris, he'll probably tell you the best way to do it. I'm going to wait for his reply.

Don't worry about anti cheats right now just keep working on the rest of your map. Its a waste of time thinking about something when you can be actually working on something else. If worst comes to worst you can always just release a multiplayer version and release a single player one along the road sometime else.

^_^
07-24-2004, 07:43 PM#288
HexenLordX
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Originally Posted by -Ragnarok-
I messaged Osiris, he'll probably tell you the best way to do it. I'm going to wait for his reply.

Don't worry about anti cheats right now just keep working on the rest of your map. Its a waste of time thinking about something when you can be actually working on something else. If worst comes to worst you can always just release a multiplayer version and release a single player one along the road sometime else.

^_^

I won't be releasing a single player version of this RPG. Mainly because its an OPEN Rpg. When the campaign comes along, I'll be using the anti-cheat system that I've started working on, unless you can get Osiris's reply sooner. This RPG will be for b.net/Lan only.
07-24-2004, 07:53 PM#289
-Ragnarok-
i believe ill have them quite soon ^_^

Osiris and all the FM characters usually check their messages constantly
07-24-2004, 08:15 PM#290
Perfect-ChaosX
If I recall, someone mentioned awhile back that the reason Hexen needs anti-cheat for the map is so people don't load it in singleplayer, type whosyourdaddy, and get uber characters to use on Battle.net (with the save & load feature). This is an obvious possibility, so it is one of the reasons, I'm assuming. There may be more, I dont' know.
07-24-2004, 08:22 PM#291
rtm-2
nonononoon i can do the anti cheat system in world editor unlimited either i made a mistake on the message OR you read it wrong you said u r bad at cinematics im good at them so i am asking if i can help you with the cinematics alright
07-24-2004, 10:03 PM#292
Talos_911
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Originally Posted by rtm-2
nonononoon i can do the anti cheat system in world editor unlimited either i made a mistake on the message OR you read it wrong you said u r bad at cinematics im good at them so i am asking if i can help you with the cinematics alright
Then do it on a map and send it to him instead of saying it... I think that'll be more effective ;).

BTW Hexen, did you get the atomic blast models ? Are they upto the mark ?

-Talos_911
07-24-2004, 11:13 PM#293
-Ragnarok-
Well I'll have that Anti - Cheat system probobly in the next 2 days. It all depends when you are going to release the Map.

Make sure you do a shit load of finishing touches.

Also I do not know if I'm too late saying this or if your already aware of the fact that each of the sayians gets stronger after he eats a zensu bean or gets healed. Are you including that in your map?

If you decide your going to include that in your map you must be fair to everyone else too. So you can make a special ability for each race.

Namiks and Buu: can type -Regenerate, this will take all your mana andconvert it to life points.

Saiyans: After you eat a healing item or get healed. you get expereince points depending on how much it heals.

Androids: ... Well fuck androids uhmm how about their massive weight give them bonus defense points...

Not sure if there are any other races.
07-24-2004, 11:44 PM#294
Andy
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Originally Posted by rtm-2
nonononoon i can do the anti cheat system in world editor unlimited either i made a mistake on the message OR you read it wrong you said u r bad at cinematics im good at them so i am asking if i can help you with the cinematics alright
Maybe you should shut up before you give someone a migrane, and maybe I should shut up before I get banned....interesting isnt it.
07-25-2004, 01:18 AM#295
HexenLordX
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Originally Posted by Talos_911
BTW Hexen, did you get the atomic blast models ? Are they upto the mark ?

-Talos_911

Just got home, lookin at them right now.

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Originally Posted by -Ragnarok-
Also I do not know if I'm too late saying this or if your already aware of the fact that each of the sayians gets stronger after he eats a zensu bean or gets healed. Are you including that in your map?

If you decide your going to include that in your map you must be fair to everyone else too. So you can make a special ability for each race.

Namiks and Buu: can type -Regenerate, this will take all your mana andconvert it to life points.

Saiyans: After you eat a healing item or get healed. you get expereince points depending on how much it heals.

Androids: ... Well fuck androids uhmm how about their massive weight give them bonus defense points...

I will not be including the fact that saiyans get stronger whether winning or losing. Since 4 out of 5 of playable characters are saiyans.. this will cause an unfair advantage to Piccolo.

Nameks and Buu can type -regenerate? Well, no. For several reasons. One, Buu isn't playable. He is playable once you unlock him, but trust me.. finding the Dragonballs enough times to unlock Buu won't be fun, at all. Piccolo will have an aura that effects only him. He will start out with this ability, and it will convert mana to life. At level one it will convert 2 mana to 1 life every 1 second, and eventually convert 1 mana to 5 life once it hits level 10. I think this is a lot easier than typing -regenerate. It will also be used to balance out the abilities between the five characters.

Androids will have increased defense and slightly less movement speed, yes.
07-25-2004, 01:21 AM#296
HexenLordX
A trigger has been added so the map cannot be played on singleplayer. This fixes the use of cheating also. :)
07-25-2004, 02:14 AM#297
Balthamos
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Originally Posted by HexenLordX
A trigger has been added so the map cannot be played on singleplayer. This fixes the use of cheating also. :)

Ahh, Hexen, I meant to add that suggestion on my last post :P as that's how I got around it in my map.
07-25-2004, 03:10 AM#298
-Ragnarok-
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Originally Posted by HexenLordX
Nameks and Buu can type -regenerate? Well, no. For several reasons. One, Buu isn't playable. He is playable once you unlock him, but trust me.. finding the Dragonballs enough times to unlock Buu won't be fun, at all. Piccolo will have an aura that effects only him. He will start out with this ability, and it will convert mana to life. At level one it will convert 2 mana to 1 life every 1 second, and eventually convert 1 mana to 5 life once it hits level 10. I think this is a lot easier than typing -regenerate. It will also be used to balance out the abilities between the five characters.

What if I don't want to be regenerating and it uses all my mana, and the enemy im fighting just so happens to have around 200 HP left, and my special beam cannon deals 200 hp. Then I die all becuase i am regenerating and losing mana all the time. Id be pissed off. :\
07-25-2004, 03:41 AM#299
rtm-2
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Originally Posted by -Ragnarok-
What if I don't want to be regenerating and it uses all my mana, and the enemy im fighting just so happens to have around 200 HP left, and my special beam cannon deals 200 hp. Then I die all becuase i am regenerating and losing mana all the time. Id be pissed off. :\

hes got a point anyways

hey hexenloadx so can i do the cinematic im good with them since u r done with the anti cheat system already then i can only help you with the cinematics so can i
07-25-2004, 04:09 AM#300
HexenLordX
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Originally Posted by rtm-2
hes got a point anyways

hey hexenloadx so can i do the cinematic im good with them since u r done with the anti cheat system already then i can only help you with the cinematics so can i

First of all its not HexenLoadX.. Learn to read. If you wanna help with cinematics, send me some test work and I'll see how good you are. Make a nice cinematic for an ability, because that's where I need cinematic help right now.

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Originally Posted by -Ragnarok-
What if I don't want to be regenerating and it uses all my mana, and the enemy im fighting just so happens to have around 200 HP left, and my special beam cannon deals 200 hp. Then I die all becuase i am regenerating and losing mana all the time. Id be pissed off.

Yeah, I thought about this, and instead it won't be a passive ability, but an ability with a set duration that can only be cast on yourself. Same basic life/mana ratio will apply though.