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08-15-2003, 02:36 AM#61
DarkMonkey
emote_sweat Helpme, give it a rest. If you really want to vent your anger, buy a punching bag.
08-15-2003, 09:50 AM#62
Dead-Inside
That was amusingly sarcastic. I'm not a stiff. Besides, there are going to be 5 heros, one for eatch of the 4 races (Teams). Eatch team has 3 ppl.

The "Choosing" units are different for eatch team, you ignorant little *cencored*. And I would never use WISPS for such a cause in any map, what so ever.

Those items you thougth of, what in the world would make you think that those would make the map intresting? The really intresting items will have special abilities, bonuses ect.

Tomes will still not be used. Though I might issue a "2+ to all abilites" as a prize or something of that sort.

Instead of being sarcastic why don't you actually try for real and give me something to work with, please?

Regards
Dead-Inside
08-15-2003, 11:07 AM#63
kharma
I'm sure he'd love to, but he's currently banned.

And sorry I haven't read the whole post so my idea may not be relevant, but what about purchasing mechs as bonus 'suits of armour' for a one-time kill frenzy. You can use Goblin Shredders as the mechs, and give them the unit load ability. The penalty for the temporary bonus is that if the mech dies while the unit is still inside, he gets stunned for a certain amount of time (it's part of the built-in death penalty with the load ability for Zeppelins). I'm sure you could make a trigger whereby the armour is unstable and can explode at any time after it accumulates a certain amount of damage to add an extra element of risk.

~kharma
08-18-2003, 02:52 PM#64
Dead-Inside
Uh, a what? I didn't get it. Did you mean to devour another hero, kinda, or what? Or did you mean to load yourself into the mech and then shoot? Like a burrow?

Regards
Dead-Inside
08-18-2003, 07:12 PM#65
DarkMonkey
I really want to see a hero that can build different things as his abilities. They could cost mana, and disappear after a set amount of time.

The Dimensional Carpenter
A human hero, with a peasant model. If possible, edit him so his pickaxe glows.

Supernatural Sentry
The Carpenter uses his interdimensional pickaxe to warp in a tower. After __ seconds, it shifts out of existance.
(picks a random tower: Undead, Human, Orc, NE, or Naga. Each one is different in its own way)

Another World's Waters
Phazes in a pool of unknown liquid with unknown healing properties. Heals for __ HP per second. After __seconds, reality catches up with it, and it disappears.
(Corrupted Moon Well model, heals like a fountain, does not replenish mana)

Unreal Repairmen
The Carpenter distorts reality for a breif second to allow a creature to slip in from unknown lands. He can't attack, but he can repair buildings. Every level he repairs faster. At level three, he can use a special tecnique to keep a summoned building from warping back. It can be used once per creature.
(He looks like a dranei, a different one every level)

Ultimate: Vortex

A portal opens that lets out a visitor from another realm. He can build one thing before he is sucked back into his own dimension. However, whatever he builds is permanent, and has no time limit. What you get depends on comes through the rift.
[summons one random builder out of a list. ther builders are:

Otherworldly Amphibian (a mur'gul slave)- builds a fountain that heals health and mana.

Interdimensional Tourist (A high elf builder)- builds a tower that can cast various spells, offensive and defensive.

Angry Warlord (a chaos grunt)- Builds a powerful offensive tower}


What do you think? It took me forever to come up with, and sounds like a fun hero.
08-19-2003, 06:14 PM#66
Dead-Inside
Haha, it's great! However, it will be for Orcs (Or UD but it doesn't fit them). Apart from their Brute Force tactics they'll have one guy with his head on straigth who builds stuff, like you said. Hard thing will be balancing. Thank you for the wonderful idea. I might make him a secret hero for the humans tho.

Please make more ideas mate :) I'll be sure to put you in major credits if you help me think up 3-4 heros. ATM I need spells for ALL heros. I need Heros for UD and Orc. 4 UDs and 3 Orcs.
If you want to know the Heros that are already made, just say so and I'll post their names and the thougths of what they do.

Regards
Dead-Inside
08-19-2003, 06:23 PM#67
DarkMonkey
I'll try to come up with more heroes, mainly for UD! With the builder, please keep up with the interdimensional theme, I think it's cool. Also, I would like to see the hero list.
08-19-2003, 07:43 PM#68
AresKaminari
Name: Necromaster
Model: Kil'jaden (hero model in Undead Campaign area) or Kel'thuzad Ghost (also in campaign of undead)
Extended tooltip: Mystical hero, adept at controlling and manipulating others' use of magic. Learns Reflect, Dark Enchantment, Mana Burst, and Mana Shift.

Slot 1) Reflect - An ability that allows the hero to be magic immune but drains mana, it'll run a lot like Immolation. (though I myself do many custom-spells/upgrades and I cannot see how to create this)

Slot 2) Dark Enchantment - Hero version of control magic, each time a point is put into it, make the required mana for hp base lower, thus less mana to control summoned units.

Slot 3) Mana Burst - Basic passive hero version of Feedback, destroy mana and do extra damage through combustion.

Slot 4 Ultimate) Mana Shift - hero version of 'absorb mana' (the destroyer's ability), change to allow it to hit enemies, and thus our hero gains all the enemy's mana.

Basically this dude loves to screw over heroes/casters, as you can probably tell. If you use him, make sure to give due credit. Have fun with him :D

P.S. If you can't figure out how to do slot 1, PM me and If I haven't figured it out by then I can probably think of something else.
08-19-2003, 08:59 PM#69
AresKaminari
Name: King Abdomination (tenative name)
Model: Some kind of overly sized Abdomination?
Extended Tooltip: Warrior hero, well used for supporting others in combat in groups. Learns Dead Weight, Fat Layers, Comatose Aura, and Infectious Laziness.

Slot 1) Dead Weight - Hero version of bloodlust, makes allies (make sure he can't cast it on himself) have increases in attack rate/movement speed.

Slot 2) Fat Layers - A passive hero version of Hardened Skin from the mountain giant. Basically reduce all melee/ranged damage.

Slot 3) Comatose Aura - An aura that gives allies around the hero (BUT NOT THE HERO HIMSELF) an attack bonus due to the fact that they have to 'carry his weight.' Modify Command Aura (neutral hostile ability), make sure to take off 'self' in targets.

Slot 4 Ultimate) Infectious Laziness - Take stasis trap ability and superpower its stun length.

This guy really can't do much by himself, but the noble player who chooses this dude (most likely a big slow guy with high HP) will have fun boosting his allies. Credit due..so forth..same as before.
08-19-2003, 09:17 PM#70
AresKaminari
Name: Dark Revnant (It's an UD hero, make sure he's a ranged hero)
Model: Pick a Revnant! (yaaay)
Extended Tooltip: Mystical Hero, a dead being of immense power. Can learn Unearthly Assistance, Blood Frency, Death Mist, and Darkness Calls.

Slot 1) Unearthly Assistance - Modify either Essence of Blight or Replenish Mana (either abilities of the Obsidian statue) into a hero spell that gives both Mana and HP to nearby friendly units.

Slot 2) Blood Frenzy - Hero version of 'Beserk,' each level make extra damage taken go down with extra damage given go up.

Slot 3) Death Mist - It's the hero version of Disease Cloud. Those stupid melee heroes will pay for getting close to our ranged hero..hehehehahahahaha.

Slot 4 Ultimate) Darkness Calls - Major damage/possible instant death to one unit. Modify 'Finger of Death' or 'Finger of Pain' to do an extravagent amount of damage (like 2000 or so, enough to kill the average level 10 hero)

Another one..That's three UD heroes now...I hope you're having fun with these.
08-20-2003, 12:12 AM#71
DarkMonkey
I have a great idea for a funny orc hero!

Old Man Carson
(use the model of that one old hermit-lookin orc dude, forgot his name)
Description: Old Man Carson is tired of them lousy kids stepping on his lawn and ringing his doorbell! It's revenge time!
Abilities:

Old man's screech
Old Man Carson uses his trusty megaphone to blow out the eardrums of them disrespectful ninnies! Does __ damage in an area of effect.

Scary Leer
Maybe givin them the ol' evil eye will git rid of them rascals!
Enemies in an area of effect pee their pants and go ethereal for __seconds. Ethereal units take more damage from Old man's screech and Con Sarnit.

Release The Hounds
If you beat em, sick a rabid dog on em, that's what I always say! Yes sir!
summons two angry dogs with hearing aids. They get stronger every level.

Ultimate: Rotten Candy
Them's annoyin lil buggers! I know! I'll feed em some o' these here outdated 1865 cocolate chests! That'll teach em to stomp MY flowers!
drops a chest that looks like a random item, but deals ___ damage when it's picked up!

Hehe, how do ya like that?
08-22-2003, 12:11 PM#72
Dead-Inside
Well, the spells are basicly changed names on, for yours Dark Monkey. But I might think up some funny versions.

As for you, AresKaminari, I love the spells. However, I think I'll need to look for other models. The Fat Layer idea was superb! It should be something like Eat, which adds more HP but can only be used every now and then. (Adds 25 or 50 hp for 50 or 100 mana). He also doesn't have much mana :). It'll be hard to balance, tho.

Anyway, could you bring me more UD heros, AresKaminari?

ATM I'm working on Spell 1 for "Jester". Called Juggle... He'll be throwing some balls. I'm not sure on how to do it yet. (I plan on making lotz of spells trigger drivven, unlike you guys, who just rename regular spells :P).

Edit: I almost forgot.
Almost even more important is ITEMS! I really really really need items. They're extremly needed, :P. At the moment I don't have anything. I want cool items that do cool stuff. Gives cool powerups. And most importantly, no tomes. I am thinking about a tome-reward (small one) for winning one of the in-game contest. MAYBE. But other then that, none.

Regards
Dead-Inside
08-22-2003, 03:04 PM#73
AresKaminari
Name: Gravekeeper
Model: that ko'bold with the shovel! (or whatever you want :D)
Extended Tooltip: Warrior hero, Able to manipulate the will of the living and dead. Learns Call of the Dead, Reaper's Assistance, Lifeforce Steal, and Will of the Dead.

Slot 1) Call of the Dead - A version of 'Animate Dead' dumbed down a bit so it raises 1/2/3 nearby corpses for 30 seconds that are NOT invulnerable. (This won't work on heroes but you can use it on the random creeps in the field for assistance, or if you allow hirelings, somebody's dead one's!)

Slot 2) Reaper's Assistance - Hero version of faerie fire. Upgrade the armor reduction per level and length.

Slot 3) Lifeforce Steal - based off Life Steal, a never-used ability for originally designed for Frostmourne (It's under Neutral Hostile Unit spells). It's basically a one-person vampiric aura, but since only only our hero's affected, we can up the amount of drain. (Passive, course)

Slot 4 Ultimate) Will of the Dead - Modify the never-used spirit beast (originally made for akama) or any other summon-type spell to call upon 6 pathetic units (zombie-model) that can use 'Corpse Explosion' to cause big AoE damage (take kaboom! or more likely modify Unstable concoction, making sure to change AoE targets to ground as well). If you want to make it so they can't blow each other up, unit classify them as suicidal, then in the ability targets/aoe targets make sure to specify 'non-suicidal'.
08-22-2003, 03:48 PM#74
AresKaminari
Ah..my fifth UD hero.

Name: Stained Priest/Death Priest/Rotted Priest (something like that)
Model: (You pick)
Extended Tooltip: Cunning hero (whoa..an UD with agility?!), the undead master of healing (decaying?) on the go. Can learn Corpse Binge, Burst of Speed, Aura of Blight, and Onslaught.

Slot 1) Corpse Binge - Hero version of cannibalize! Eat those neutral hostile creeps after you kill them!

Slot 2) Burst of Speed - What better way to get out of trouble than to RUN! Modify Bloodlust to have a much larger per level movement speed, but NO attack rate. Use on allies/self to run!

Slot 3) Aura of Blight - hero version of Aura of Blight. Make the HP regen higher than even Unholy aura, since it's only HP. (Yes I can use this hotkey since it's a passive ability!)

Slot 4 Ultimate) Onslaught - My favorite ability so far, a 30-second, large AoE, Channeling, hero-version of Cloud that is modified to prevent BOTH Melee and Ranged attacks of ONLY enemies. (to do this modify 'attacks prevented' to check both 'Ranged' and 'Melee' and then change targets to 'Structure, Ground, Air, Enemy, Neutral, Organic.' Basically do whatever to make it effect only enemies, but not any mechanical enemies)
08-22-2003, 04:10 PM#75
AresKaminari
Name: Temptress
Model: Something hot...yet dead? (IS THAT POSSIBLE?!)
Extended Tooltip: Mystical Hero, adept at modifying movement to do her dirty work. Can learn Sisters in Death, Plague Ward, Tempting Aroma, and Seduce.

Slot 1) Sisters in Death - Modify any summon to create any unit that can use possession to take over enemy hirelings/creeps. Make multiple custom units each with their own version of possession, which gets progressively higher max creep level I.E. (level 1: banshee can possess up to level 5, level 2: banshee can posses up to level 7...and so forth)

Stot 2) Plague Ward - Modify any ward spell (to hero) and create a unit called the 'Plague Ward,' then give that unit the Plague Ward ability (under undead/units, called 'Disease Cloud - Plague Ward, basically it damages enemies while it exists, opposite of healing ward. (In order to increase plague ward damage simply design three custom units with three separate versions of the actual Plague Ward ability)

Slot 3) Tempting Aroma - hero version of the tornado slow aura (it's under neutral passive/units), causes people to become slower around the Temptress, used in conjunction with Plague ward causes people to be within the ward's distance longer. (it's Passive!)

Slot 4 Ultimate) Seduce - hero version of Cripple. 'Seduce' a unit into lowering a bunch of important stats temporarily (including movement!), because they lose the urge to fight.

(I think I'm going to give you them in groups of three, since 6 is probably plenty of Undead heroes..you only wanted four..lol :ggani:, remember due credit..wheee, let me know if you need more)