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10-27-2003, 03:14 PM#76
HarlequinKnight
Simple model requests? People shouldn't "have" to want to help you! Don't you get it? You people are turning this into a market, in which peple actually have to do what they don't want to, to improve themselves! This is wrong, and I hope that it is removed soon. I hate all of it. I hope that CampaignCreations doesn't do this in the future, as that is where I'm going next. Sure, the admin could care less if people leave, but I consider myself a nice guy, willing to help, and you people had to fuc* it all up. WAnt want want, it's all people do anymore. WhiteHorn, no one "pities" you, since you were having "FUN". You shouldn'y turn around on the people, telling them that you want something in return. If I'm not mistaken, you practically ran around from mod to mod looking to help! This isn't a bad thing, and I'm not against you helping. But if you perhaps didn't try to help others so badly, maybe you wouldn't be so dissapointed when people may not want to make you armor, much prefering to make that sword "they" wanted. Thats why there are projects, so people cn focus on the same genre, story, and concept. You like mpodelling LotR chars, join an lotr team. You want to make a campaign, throw it out in the open and see if people will help. If it's something people want to see in the future, they don't mind as much when it comes to helping for "free"...
10-27-2003, 03:36 PM#77
Das Jank
People dont "have" to do what they don't want to. It will never come down to that becasue people have their own free will. Its not like these points are impossible to come by. I mean is someone feels like helping out for free and giving away their skins for nothing then more power to them. If people make a choice to put a price on their skins then its their choice. Its kind of like people having to earn what they want, everything shouldnt be given to people for free. People now have to interact some with the community and help others by posting to gain points to donate/buy or however you want to call it, the skin/model they want.
10-27-2003, 03:45 PM#78
Vexorian
I personnally was with this idea even before it was implemented, just wait a week and people will start to use the rate button and it will encourage good posting.

Take a look out there, there are already guys that got -10 points by disapproving just for a senseless post.

Also, it is still better than the post count, at least I will earn points for more than just posting, and they are useful now.

Other think, skins and models are hardwork and I think it is fair that the creators ask for at least a virtual reward for it.
10-27-2003, 06:41 PM#79
KaTTaNa
It is fair that people get points for their work if that is what they want. But they shouldn't require them from other users. If they make a good skin/model, people can use the rate button if they like it, and that way he should get points for it.
I think it should be illegal to demand/ask for points from other users. If a user is caught doing so, he should receive a warning.

I'm 100% against a "market" community, and I think the points system should be rid of for good. The above is just a suggestion to how it can become less troublesome if you are to keep it.
10-27-2003, 08:00 PM#80
Hunter0000
Quote:
Originally posted by WhiteHorn
Just an example.

I spent 2 hours on a skin, which generates a few replies like 'put up for DL'. I am reluctant to simply give away my hard work when others have shunned my requests.

Now I can say I'll send it to you for 'x points'. Hopefully, I may make a few points by 'selling' the skin (unless the git uploads it for everyone), giving me some buying power. This will then allow me to bug some modeller to do my simple model tweak request for my mod.

In my opinion points = time and effort. You gain them, by default, from posting, and having people read your posts. Now you can gain them for your modding work, and let you receive something in return for your efforts.


Aha!

You see, this would work fine, even with this money cr*p if every1 could sell thier product. As I said prevouly, modelers and skinners have a hard product that they show before giving. You can't Show a map to show its quality, you have to play it first. Therefore, it doesn't allow payment before it is downloaded. Even if that was possible, This a is a forum, not a marketplace!
10-27-2003, 08:42 PM#81
Peppar
I think this could be a fun idea for most people. Personally I don't care about decorative things like "custom titles" and "username glow", but I think other things shouldn't depend on *points*.

I believe that avatars aren't just some kind of decoration. It is there to help people effortlessly distinguish which poster made which post, a helper for the eye. The avatar should be free to change anytime.

Signatures could have some kind of cost, but it should be free to have a simple signature, up to 250 characters and no images.
10-27-2003, 10:10 PM#82
R2D2
It sux majorly to have to pay to change avatar, title and stuff. Not to mention the store stuff is rediculously priced :(

ok idea to give extra points to people who post models,skins,maps that are downloaded. But restricting stuff by pricing it really really sux.
10-28-2003, 01:34 PM#83
Vexorian
What you guys can't figure is that the system is still on beta stages , the prices , and things in the store may change, also let's wait until people actually start to use the rate button before making statements.
10-28-2003, 03:25 PM#84
HarlequinKnight
Well, Lord Vexorian, I jsut dissaproved of your post. You just lost a point. Isn't that abusement of the point system? Now you can go dissaprove of all of my posts and ruin me. Or, if some friends of yours also agree with your views, they could also disagree with me.

This will make flames all the worse, including ones involving the requests forum. What if I keep raising the price of the skin you want? You need the skin, so I price it higher than I should to get more points. It's just very... amature. I hope it gets at least modified in the future, so we can have an actually fun place to hang out once again.

*edit* I approved of your first post, to make up for the first rating.
10-28-2003, 08:40 PM#85
MartinezTG
I wonder what was so bad about the ability to change my avatar and Custom Title whenever I wanted to.

That's all I got to say to that.

Martinez

EDIT: Oh... and want another marvelous idea? How about making it cost you 75 points to edit your posts LOL ;)
10-28-2003, 09:02 PM#86
flamesforzuljin
i agree w/ zach shadow that the forums are ment to help people w/ wc3 stuff, not auction off your stuff for frigin points

down with the pt. system
10-28-2003, 09:10 PM#87
Patrick
Ya why do you have to pay to change your avatar??
10-29-2003, 12:19 AM#88
HarlequinKnight
Well, if it costed points to edit, then you would end with a ton of double or even triple posters.....

I wonder why this hasn't gotten more attention fro mthe moderators or admin. If they are viewing it, then why aren't they reflecting their own ideas on it? Judging from the poll, not too many people are happy about it, and that will lose you a fair amount of good people............ Oh yeah, I forgot that if we leave, you would be happy to cut down on forum costs. Whatever... You people make me wonder how this place ever got off the ground. :nono:
10-29-2003, 11:30 AM#89
Vexorian
Quote:
Originally posted by HarlequinKnight
I wonder why this hasn't gotten more attention fro mthe moderators or admin. If they are viewing it, then why aren't they reflecting their own ideas on it? Judging from the poll, not too many people are happy about it, and that will lose you a fair amount of good people............ Oh yeah, I forgot that if we leave, you would be happy to cut down on forum costs. Whatever... You people make me wonder how this place ever got off the ground. :nono:


Ok , this poll was on the main page and you can see the results that 138 users gave , on the other side this thread's poll was hella biased:

"It's ok I guess, I just have to start posting alot of comments...."

"I LOVE IT, It's great, I can spam and get "paid" for it! w00t"


A poll is not valid when there are not real "YES" options
10-30-2003, 02:55 AM#90
HarlequinKnight
Not a very good example, there, considering most people didn't like it, a margin of them thoguht it was merely ok, and quite a few were "no opinion", meaning they could probably not care, or didn't know the system well enough to post properly.


My point is, this arguement was proven there as well, with people not liking this change, since it doesn't necessarily make a change for the better.... :nono: