TERRAINING CLAN!!!! (Dont Vote Yet)

Well, here are the names that we came up with during the meeting:

1) Council of Terraphormers
2) CONSILIVM FORMATORUM TERRAE
3) Tsukurite no jimen (TSUNOJIN?)
4) Guild of Terrainers
5) PROPOSITVM TERRAE
6) CREANT TERRA
7) CREATORI TERRAE

I'll add a few more that are liked on to the poll and have it changed.

I would like to join cus I think this is an awesome idea but I think you would laugh at me terrain.


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All your guy's terrain is kick booty and mine is like poo compared to that.

world design wootage! also, i wanted to know if i could join.

and, as you may or may not know, Demon_Dream made a terrain store, its another forum site, based on terraining for this. He PMed me about you guys having a place on the site, just let me or him know if your interested

Here's one of my crap terrains. I took the pic in WE.

Here's one of my crap terrain. I took it in WE.

no one care about my terrain

its beautiful. Soon as i get MY comp back blah blah you all have heard this enough, i'll help. Oh i like the idea of being hosted at that terrain forum. We would be like spokespeople if i'm not mistaken?

(aww, gotta rewrite this whole post on memory.. :( )

First off: ^That's not a very good way to look at your terraining. You're fine, but if you tell yourself that you suck, you will project it in your work. Just remember that we all started out in the same position, you came to the right place if you truly do want to learn how to terrain with the best of 'em. Take advantage of people's advice here.. I can tell you a few things that might help you but you must be willing to accept them.
Tip #1: Before taking a screenshot, Press "G" until the grid disappears.
Tip #2: It is good that you played with multiple doodads in your map. If you spend a little more time on this picture, I'm sure you can fill it with lots of great details.
Tip #3: Don't build your maps through the eyes of others. We all have our different styles. One might see a horrible terrain as 'abstract' so don't compromise what you like about your map based on other's opinions. Basically, If i say that those trees are in a bad spot, but you don't agree, don't change it.

EvilWolf: I attached your 'forest path' as an image, I hope you don't mind, if you want me to remove it, I will by all means. This was just so that people wouldnt have to DL the world edit file. (I noticed only 4 people have in the past day) Oh, and great job on it. This path looks like a great place to reveal a character's huge secret. That path over the bridge is a great example of bringing the outside of the map back in ://// Nice work with the flowers and shrubs on the outside.
Petray gives it :D :D

DarkAngel: For the clan, I think we should impose a rule in that list about plagiarism. I know that people will do anything to get attention on a messageboard. I like the idea that "If you are caught plagiarizing somebody elses work (That is, using another's work without their consent, posing as the creator of the work, or any other form of terraining fraud) You will be banned, regardless of your status in the clan. I think this is a very important subject. It is important to let people know that there is NO tolerance when it comes to this. I just posted up one of Evilwolf's screenshots, but i let everybody know that I didn't make it, and i give him the option of taking it off upon request. Earlier somebody said that its not illegal if you arent caught. Maybe the top 5 or 10 in the clan can vote on minor or major offenses of this. Just something you should keep in mind as an organizer. :D

Another thing. on that list of clan names, there were too many 'far-out' ones (in my opinion) i think we should keep it fairly simple, but still have some really cool words. Sticking with the keywords 'Council, Association, Guild, Terrain, Terrainer, World, Earth...' (was that other stuff latin and japanese?)

Can we get an updated list of the members (that are able to meet on B.net) and a defined channel to meet in?

Very last, I appologize if i came across as arrogant by posting up the 'bad terraining' screenshot, just wanted to get a chuckle out of somebody- If i offended you, I'm very very sorry.

Evilwolf's 'Forest Path'

Hiall. I love how you guys have created a terrain clan for people intrested in terrain. Given the fact that some people say terrain is the hardest thing to work at when it comes to a good map. This message is in the showing that you are growing and will need a place to be. This is where I come in. I will offer you guys a spot on the, Warcraft Terrain Forum if you wish. I'll gladly set you guys up and give you guys whatever you need. Our forum webmaster is a very talented member and if you wish we can have custom ranks done for you. As evilwolf and Toxicseaweed have posted if you wish to join I will gladly speak with who ever is in charge of the clan for further questions. Thanks you for your time.

--Demon_Dream

can we get a list of "OBJECTIVES" together so that way we can have some goals and we don't aimlessly waste time? Could the list look something like this

[.] Establish Members
[ ] Establish Name
[.] Find a place to host forum
[ ] Get a Information Form regarding clan member contact info
[ ] Discuss clan mechanics *council, president, elections ect*

Get the idea?

THEN! i agree with you guys. It would seem appropriate to start working on projects. THOUGH WE MUST FIRST ESTABLISH OURSELFS THAT IS A MUST.

I agree entirely. We can't get ahead of ourselves. This is really great. I know i don't really have status on the forum yet, but i would love to be a ranked member in this. I promise dedication to the clan and so forth.

This is how I see this as turning out, not necesarily agreeing or disagreeing with anybody's opinions. Hopefully this will give ideas for structure and assembly:

Members: So far, it seems that everyone who has posted in this topic wants a part in this affiliation. As soon as we get 10, we will be a clan on B.net, until then i suggest that we make Dark Angel our official founder, and he will decide where we go from here. By the looks of it, the clan is aiming towards a council of 10 members. (10 sounds like quite a bit, but depending on how big this thing gets, we might be recruiting more) I think we should start with 5. For now, members should be added based on their interest. I think each member should have something in their signature or Tag to show that they are a member; it is important to know they can't just SAY they are a part of the clan. If the website keeps people in check on their projects, i think that the top 10 members will need to maintain their status through several possible means. Hosting Tourniments/gatherings on B.net, Hosting terrain competitions, Tutorials, Reviews, etc. (basically to ensure they are still alive and with us. It sounds like we are getting our own nook in the messageboard so we might need to elect a moderator. As far as custom member ranking, a point system would work well; any member of the council, or multiple members judge work/effort to promote people. This system shouldn't be biased for any certain members, all 'Official' members will need to pull their weight somehow. (almost a 'decay' system, but it doesnt have to be so harsh.. if we know they are on vacation or so forth, this can be completely lenient. if a member hasn't checked in for 6 months, it is safe to say they are gone)

Establish Name: This seems to be the hardest of the obstacles. We have had some great brainstorming for names, but it's safe to say we don't want to 'commit' to any one name. I think that as we gain more members, this will get easier. We have some basic keywords so far (as mentioned in my previous post) We should encourage any input from any members. Stuff like 'OWTA' (Official World Terrain Affiliation) seems simple enough, but has a bit of sophistication to it.

Find a Place to host forum: I don't know whether you mean starting an entire new website/forum or just having our own subforum in this messageboard. Either would be great. A subforum would be nice as a temporary place to gather our members and ideas. For an official website, we should wait until everything is fairly set. Since we ARE based from W3C, it would be cool to support the site and all it's guests with our information. I don't doubt that a Terraining website would work, just that, this is a very good place for well-rounded people to come and discover the fun in 'terraining'.

Get information Form regarding clan member contact info I think this comes with the last subject. If people have AIM/MSN/Yahoo etc. they should post it up here. I'm willing to make a list of contacts for our members. Maybe an official one would come if we branch off to our own site.

Discuss Clan Mechanics: I think that some of the clan mechanics should be discussed early. It is important to know who is the leader and so forth. The other things like 'competitions' and fun stuff will come later when we are secure. Ranking is fairly important, those who are more dedicated should reap benefits from it. this in itself is a major project, i agree that organization is of upmost importance at this point. Save your fun ideas for later times. See Dark Angel's rules.

I don't want to sound like i'm picking on you Toxic by repeating what you may have said. We should have a tag to signify our clan status in our sig, even while it's temporary, the more organization we get early on(no matter how irrelevent) the better this will be when it becomes official. If nothing else comes from this, I hope we get a group of people on this board who know eachother enough to contact them and have an 'unofficial pact'

I hope this post not only gives ideas, but also shows how willing I am to give to this cause. I feel suitable for any ranking positions. I want to contribute to this because i know how fun this will be.

-Thank You-
HeyPetray :cool:

Wow Petray, you really just summed up alot of what I've been thinking into one post. You seem to have many good ideas that I agree with and it looks like you want to stay with this. We already have a few members that have shown they wish to continue this clan so I think we can get on with going for our name. While it is not the most important thing I think that it would be good to get it out of the way. We have seven or so names that we all wanted, I suggest we all just vote on it. I think it would be ok to make a new poll that has the names. Once we get our own place weather it be temporary or not I think we should just grade peoples work. We could all just give them advice on what to do to make the map more intresting or detailed. I'm sure new members a bound to come by if they find we have our own message board, so we'll have enough members to do voting and such. Dark if you want you could just make a poll for us all to vote on the name, it would be alot easier than asking an admin to change it.

Added it. Check the rules again. I've made a few adjustments based on recent developments.


We have about 15-20 members I think. It's just that many can't or don't use bnet often/ever. Oh yeah, I already am the official founder. That position comes with founding the group.


How about both? I think I have a plan for this. Demon_Dream pay attention as well. I think it would be good to have your site host us. If you do host us, we'll need ranks and other some other things. Your forum will serve as our home site. But, I think we're about 3-4 days away from getting a sub-forum here. So, I'd say your site will be our home, where our members can go, and the sub-forum here will be for everyone to come, and people to join. At your forum, I think we should have council meetings and other things for just members, and on the sub-forum we will hold contests, tournaments, give tutorials, lessons, and comment on people's terrain.


Before we do anything with a site, we need to get a name. Speaking of that, how does the Terrain Foundation sound?

Actually, I think Worldscapes or Terrascapes, or Neoscape? Maybe something like Worldscape Creation? Or Worldscapes: Terrain Design?


Anyway, I've changed the council to 6 (including myself) so, I'll be thinking of who to put in it.

Also, I'll look through this and try to list all the members so far.

yeah, anything ending in scape sounds good. How about if each person in this topic posts up what they want the name to be (for the diferent responses in the poll)

I would want my response to be:
"WTA" - Warcraft Terrascape Affiliation

right on!

Thanks HeyPetray.

And this is to dark angel: what do you thgink of the screenshot. and i have b.net and i really want to join!!!

my b.net name is : st0rmreav3r