New Hosting Policy: Discussion and Complaints

What some of you arguing for the rule don't seem to realize is that hosting is more about the publicity then the actual need for a forum. Zurg is a one-man team, he has no need for a forum to do his job. Hosting is just a connection between the fans and the creator. One of you questioned the wisdom of using two sites as an outlet for publicity in a business context. In the same context, you have to ask - why no utilize both means, rather then one? Neither site has anything to lose, and only increased traffic to gain.

I donÄt see it by "hosted projects"! Perhaps I just didn't see it but if not, then can somebody repair it or help me? The link from the hp of CotD also goes to nowhere!

CoTD isn't hosted here anymore, its hosted over at Wc3ModForge Site:www.wc3modforge.com
look in the forum for sponsored maps then youll eventually find it
And the only reason CoTD isnt hosted here, is because of skull's (stupid) new rule, No hosting at multiple sites! So if you want to check out CoTD, head over here.

yeah..recca for some reason WC3C has decided to turn into a corrupt community...rather than trying to promote their projects and letting them be shared with all other sites...WC3C thinks it's the best WC3 site and is only allowing their projects to be hosted here...so it's no longer about the projects it's about how good the site looks..

zurg had most of his attention COTD wise posted on WC3C not modforge..so in a sense...if people wanted to talk to Zurg they had to register here..and that made more members come to this site...so acutally having a project cross hosted will bring more traffic to all the sites

i am not trying to stay on both sides and keep from offending people. all i am doing is confronting this rule and trying to change it, and that deff isnt taking both sides. When i had to comply with the rule i chose wc3mf mainly because it doesnt have this limiting rule, which damages my project.



I left it because the rule hurt my project. There are many things wrong with wc3c and its administration, and this is just part of it. I am not complaining about the hosting issue with my project, but with how the administration has been acting.

Member greedy yes, but also project greedy. There is really nothing wrong with the forumers here, but the admins do seem to have a few problems with the rest of the community.

Why shouldn't he be hosted at more than one site? its only meant to expand his fan base. And with some admins going around like nazis and censoring the word "w c 3 m o d f o r g e" that already hurts the project, by possibly alientating a portion of the fanbase.

Besides, why censor the word? I mean, when someone sees ***********, they KNOW is means "w c 3 m o d f o r g e" as it cntains the same # of letters. All the censoring has done is make people more aware of the site...and question the reasons why it is censored. I wonder if there is some fear here.

Yea, sure you can get hosting at wc3campaigns....

But you can say goodbye to being a part of the rest of the community because of the isolationist policies of this site's administration.

There is no one wc3 modding community. There is the community, and wc3c. And nobody wins with this split, especially not wc3c.

Actually, both sites have something to lose: a large portion of the visitors coming for the mod. Either one site is the primary source, in which case the other is giving free space and bandwidth for no benefit to them, or its split, and assumming that they can handle the load, by making it clear that they are the better option then disallowing multihosting, they will get all of the traffic from the mod, rather than half.

From the perspective of the site, there is no reason to allow its projects to also be hosted at other places. Yes, it is helpful for the mod, but the site gains no benefit.

Though your run-on got a little vague near the end, I'll have to contradict it. There is nothing saying that a user cannot frequent both sites, or that they have to visit one and thus ignore the other. Assuming there is a "primary" and then "secondary" sites, the secondary sites merely siphon traffic to the primary site while, in all reality, losing little or none of their own (remember, there's no rule saying someone can't be a part of more then one site/forum...) This recognition is the payoff for the space given. Disallowing multiple hosting does not prove that that site is the better choice, as is already being demonstrated here - it merely pisses off the mod makers.

Someone said to take the free space and shut up. I think that the situation is rather the reverse - the number of sites offering space with loose conditions is abundant, and the mods are the commidity to be taken as can be gotten.

You should not be trying to correct someone else's grammar when yours is just as poor, if not worse.

Also, the sites do lose out. One site will be giving space and bandwith out for free, while the other site will be used for the publicity. This is why almost every site does not allow projects to be hosted on multiple sites. They may not officially say that having a project hosted on multiple sites is against the rules, but they will certainly pull a project the goes somewhere else for hosting. If you really don't like the rule, then go somewhere else. Everything you get here is free and beggars can't be choosers.

thing is, we all know it's not about bandwidth, its all about skull and some other admins and their feud with modforge...

anyway, if anything campaigns was his primary forum. modforge were the ones losing out, cuz theirs was secondary.

and modforge is no longer censored? well, thats a step in the right direction.

This discussion went a lot of ways so I dunno if I missed this but...
Isn't Darky's campaign Return of the Dragon... wich has a forum here, not hosted here?

So the policy is you cannot host on modforge, but you can on wc3search?

basically...you'll only really get constantly yelled at if your hosted on M----ODFORGE

My point was that his grammar was obscuring his point. I at least try to avoid that.

Regardless, how can you say this site, with thousands of members, is NOT an outlet for publicity? Maybe if he didn't actually have a public forum here (or any forum, for that matter) and just an obscure link to the files somewhere, it could be said that this site is only being used for bandwidth.

Regardless, your point is flawed. This site, nor modforge or any other site, will ever recieve any recognition from someone who simply watches the cinematic (besides the URL he sees in the credits - and Zurg includes both of theses sites, among others, in there). Its not about the recognition the site recieves, its about the cinematic's exposure.

I think that you should only be able to host it here because, if you host it everywhere else that is taking some of these forums specialty's away