The project "There And Back Again: A Warcraft Tale" is looking for members

CommonsNat we won't make the hobbit. And we mostly base our models creation upon the movie.
Dragunov that's a good point... but i still have to hear of a finished lotr project ^_^ . The reason why i chose this is because the story is great and nothing so far exploited it's full potential.

As are Dragunov and Reinless right...
You're right in saying "have yet to see a finished LOTR project" you're completely right in that, excluding cinematic(s) that is of course.
Anyway, Dragunov is right, by saying that it is now too common. Because so many people already gave it a try and failed in it, it losses a lot of it's... potential. I'm not saying it became bad all of a sudden, I wouldn't dare. Especially since I didn't read the books nor saw the movies :P I'm definilitly not saying either that this project is bad, or will not finish. (Well, I was planning to (the last part), but decided not to) I am only saying that I agree with Dragunov and you may pay a little heed to it.

If you only took LOTR for history then I may have an other solution for you. But I doubt it was only for history... right? Anyway, if you want to know the other option, it would be better if you PMed.

I am really confused with the name though... since it has lesser then less to do with Warcraft ;) The name (scrap Warcraft) of itself sounds good though. I mean "There and Back again"

Well, in general
Good luck
-Fladian

In the movie, Frodo and Bilbo writes a book on his adventures titled,There and Back again.

And, a more focused try on the unwrap.

I completely agree with anyone who says making a LotR project is not a good idea. Desty and I have tried, and we didn't fail, but instead evolved into a far greater project. The whole LotR thing just wasn't going for us. Reaction and attention was at a minimum, regardless of the quality of our work. Honestly, I don't think any amount of eye candy will cause people to have faith in any LotR project anymore. Both your modelling skills combined could create unimaginable original objects, so why not put them to better use? We've all seen things from LotR before, so anything you do can't be that original. With a good story, history, and world, you could create a spectacular project that would gather three, maybe even four times the fans than any LotR project would. Well, I've said enough. Good luck, in any case.

Jarin

That's only a matter of opinion Jarin, but I have to say it's nice to hear your opinion on this again ;) .

I'm happy for you that you evolved into a greater project, but I have to say I'm a bit sad for myself (I always liked a good competition).

Well, I admit that I try to attract more attention with eye candy ;) though I don't know if I'm in any way succesful, but that's what I have to show so far.Hopefully a trailer will be released soon (yes I know, just some more eye candy), but I'd rather do that than a hasty demo.

Speaking for myself (I can only hope that Black Apostle agrees with me) I preffer to continue what I have started, though your offer sounds tempting.

That's only a matter of opinion Jarin, but I have to say it's nice to hear your opinion on this again ;) .

I'm happy for you that you evolved into a greater project, but I have to say I'm a bit sad for myself (I always liked a good competition).

Well, I admit that I try to attract more attention with eye candy ;) though I don't know if I'm in any way succesful, but that's what I have to show so far. Hopefully a trailer will be released soon (yes I know, just some more eye candy), but I'd rather do that than a hasty demo.

Speaking for myself (I can only hope that Black Apostle agrees with me) I preffer to continue what I have started, though your offer sounds tempting.

I didn't say the project was that original, but, following the main story we try to add here and there some elements of our own imagination (sidequests, spells, abilities, etc).

I know that with a good story I would be original, but I dare not to compete with the great J.R.R. Tolkien. I don't know about the amount of fans though, both the books and the movie seemed to have a HUMONGOUS amount of fans. I agree with you that newbie maps or unfinished LOTR project brought this marvelous masterpiece to the status of a common story, but I think that, if we sustain our efforts, we could contribute with a nice project to the wc3c community.

No way. Please drop by from time to time to tell us your opinion on this again :D

Thank you, that's very nice of you. Same to you and Alex, and I really hope that your project comes out to be a good project (though I'm somehow sure that it will, because if I consider your leadership skills and your kindness I'm sure you'll manage your team the right way to bring your project to life)

Hope to hear again from you

~reinless~

yeah - this is why, for the minas tirith mod... we just made it kind of free source... - there are real difficulties in translating either the book or films in a satisfactory wat...

I'm making the helmsdeep at the moment- I finally cracked the keep... The single player map will be done in a week or two

Wow, I'm very glad nobody flamed me! I was expecting the wrath of all LOTR fans! In any case, I'd just like to clarify once again, that its not a bad idea to make a LOTR mod, but as Fladian said, so many have tried, and so many have failed.

But as Reinless pointed out... we've yet to see a successfully completed LOTR project. (save the Curse of Faenor, which is just a cinematic anyway). I love LOTR, I love it to death. But I was just suggesting, with such an awesome range of talent, it might be a grand idea to stay together after this project, and start on another project. I would love to see your team do something like that. But you'll need a good writer, because good story is hard to come by. Yes, the hardest part of making a map from scratch is the creativity part. But if you do it right, you've got a surefire winner.

Good luck guys!

-Drag

Yeah, I was expecting some flames for myself as well ;)

Anyway, when it comes to story of excluding LOTR I might be able to give Reinless a hand ;) Anyway, Dragunov is right though, with such a wide range of talent it is nice stay together after this project or even if this project is dropped.

-Fladian

Thanks for your kind words, Reinless. I just have one more thing to say:



Are you trying to say our demo, or what we had done of it, was hastily put together? If you are, then you have a very bad imagination. Plus, the demo I sent you was only 30% complete, without touch-ups or game triggers. The completed demo, which we never released, was so much better than that, and looked in no way hasty.

Why would you think I was talking about YOUR demo? :(
I have 2 options to get hosted.
Release a demo map or a trailer/cinematic/ If i'd try to summarize a bit of what the game will be in a demo map it would be hell upon me. I mean I won't just release the first map (that wouldn't help the others see all the features the project is going to have) so doing a map as a demo in a hurry is not an option.
That's why i chose to do a nice trailer and that's what I was trying to say. ^_^

I have another question, Who will be at the battle of helms deep? Haldir or Eomer?

well if done by book or film eomer will be there. but will Erkenbrand arrive with gandalf or will eomer

haldir inside, eomer arrives with gandalf (cavalry is more spectacular ^_^ )

will haldir die? i hope not :(