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02-05-2004, 01:35 AM#46
Shadowfax
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Originally posted by Lour)HEAD
Wow, Shadowfax. You gave excellent advice without belittling anyone. Good job.


*Shadowfax suddenly gets a crappy Italian accent*

I go where I'm a-needed!

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Originally posted by Lour)HEAD About the mace thing, it's not that easy to expand on Tolkien's finely sealed books. You have to search for little unexplained things, and your job is to explain them. Then you are on the way to making something presentable. Good luck.


*Accent fades away*

One sub-plot that I've always wondered about is what happens to the Dwarven rings of power. The Elves go into hiding and retain theirs from Sauron's grasp, the Rings of Men turn the Kings who carried them into Ringwraiths.

The fate of the Dwarven rings is revealed in the Silmarillion, which I haven't read in several years. Either Sauron manages to take them (because the dwarves aren't so easily won over), they are destroyed, or they were lost in one of the vast hoards of the Dwarf Lords. I can't remember what happened.

If they're simply missing, an interesting story could arise about the fate of the Dwarven Rings. They too, like the One Ring, could feel some sense of urgency in the air and manage to "find" some new owners who become ensnared in Sauron's lingering trap and become fearsome, wraith-like beings (although not true Ringwraiths) and start wreaking havoc that your main character must stop, with a little grace from good King Elessar.

It would be the details that would make the campaign truly great. New models for heroes, appropriate building models for the various areas of Middle Earth, new skins. I could imagine a chamber of artifacts within Minas Tirith that houses relics from the War of the Ring, perhaps a great pedestal proudly displaying Glamdring in a shaft of light, suspended in midair by some mystical force. Areas would still be re-building after such an exhaustive war, so you could depict that . . . You could even visit Mordor and see if it has fallen into a state of further decay, or if it's begun to reform itself into something not quite so evil.

If your character goes to the Shire, it may be permissible to have the hobbits preparing some manner of party in honor of "those remarkable Bagginses" or something to that effect, or celebrating the anniversary of the Scouring of the Shire. You could have your character traverse the deserted, overgrown shell of Rivendell which may now be inhabited by god only knows what.

I'll be interested to see what you come up with, and I'll offer up my terraining services should you decide to continue.

-Bejoty (the anchor of sanity)
02-05-2004, 01:38 AM#47
Lour)HEAD
lol. can you check out my gallery? you seem like someone who would be a good commenter...Here
02-05-2004, 02:10 AM#48
SuperPeon
I dont see why you guys are pinning every thing on me just because this is my topic. i never said i was actually going to use any of these ideas but i did say i might not even make this map. so this is ****ing bull shit and wrong right here

"He's trying to rip off the LOTR story and "mirror" it by making sauron's mace like the ring." Kuramaroze.

that was gun-ho-guns idea to use the mace. not mine.

so please never again say any thing and point it at me unless i said it. if i didnt say it u cant point at me.

if we had shit lists kuramaRoze and sides would be on mine.
02-05-2004, 02:15 AM#49
Aznwhore
Yo, ppl, if you don't calm down, im gonna have to get a moderator here soon...
02-05-2004, 02:53 AM#50
Lour)HEAD
i don't want a flame here...
02-05-2004, 04:54 AM#51
kuramaRoze
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Originally posted by SuperPeon
I dont see why you guys are pinning every thing on me just because this is my topic. i never said i was actually going to use any of these ideas but i did say i might not even make this map. so this is ****ing bull shit and wrong right here

"He's trying to rip off the LOTR story and "mirror" it by making sauron's mace like the ring." Kuramaroze.

that was gun-ho-guns idea to use the mace. not mine.

so please never again say any thing and point it at me unless i said it. if i didnt say it u cant point at me.

if we had shit lists kuramaRoze and sides would be on mine.


Whoa! someone needs to take their pills... Try to make a less-important but interesting story in the LOTR world instead of ruining J.R.R Tolk's work... You could always be somewhat creative and make your own fantasy world. Its actually quite simple to do, but be creative.
02-05-2004, 06:24 AM#52
Shadowraithe
Someone asked about the Seven Rings? Well...

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Seven Rings The Rings of Power (q.v.) of the Dwarves. They were probably given to the Kings of each of the seven houses of the Dwarves. Despite Sauron's plans, the Seven could not dominate the Dwarves either by making them evil or by lengthening their lives. They did, however, cause their bearers to lust after gold and other precious materials. This failure caused Sauron to hate the Dwarves more than he did already, and he tried to recover the Seven.

Sauron was successful in recovering three of the Rings, and dragons consumed the other four. The only Ring about which much is said is the Ring of Durin's Folk. It was said to have been given to Durin III by the Elves and not by Sauron, and was probably the greatest of the Seven. It was long kept hidden, but the Dwarves believed that Sauron at last discovered its location and for this reason especially persecuted the Kings of Durin's Folk. The ring was taken from Thrain in Dol Guldur about TA 2845.

The seven had metal bands and were set with single gems.

- Complete Guide to Middle Earth by Robert Foster
02-05-2004, 11:11 AM#53
Sides
Nice post Shadow(s) <--both of you

What the hell is a shit list?

REQUEST: can someone lock this?

`s
02-05-2004, 01:08 PM#54
Lour)HEAD
a shit list is like a hit list, only it has nine characters.
02-05-2004, 02:33 PM#55
Kamahl
Why would anyone lock it? Just because some people are getting angry shouldn't mean the whole thing is gone.

About the seven rings, what happened to those Sauron had? And if they are gone, you could say the dragons who ingested the others were imbued with their powers. Or that the rings, being as powerful as they are, can't be destroyed by that, so they must be lodged within the dragons (kill them and take the rings).
02-05-2004, 05:42 PM#56
Vandell
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Originally posted by Lour)HEAD
About the mace thing, it's not that easy to expand on Tolkien's finely sealed books. You have to search for little unexplained things, and your job is to explain them. Then you are on the way to making something presentable. Good luck.


x3 I mean, when I finished Final Fantasy VIII, I wasn't pissed off about Ultimecia's multiple forms. SuperPeon could treat it that way, in a sense. If he wanted to, he could say that the ring gave him Sauron his body, the mace gave him his strength, his helmet gave him an unerring will, and his armour gives him thoughness. Except to his fingers.. his one weakness.. o_o

Regardless, I'm gonna unsubscribe from the thread. z_z
02-05-2004, 06:22 PM#57
Frostigt
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Originally posted by Gung-Ho_Guns
About the seven rings, what happened to those Sauron had? And if they are gone, you could say the dragons who ingested the others were imbued with their powers. Or that the rings, being as powerful as they are, can't be destroyed by that, so they must be lodged within the dragons (kill them and take the rings).
cant be done, the seven rings, the three, and the nine could be destroyed by the extreme heat that dragon fire creates, only the one couln't be destroyed by that
02-05-2004, 07:50 PM#58
SuperPeon
i thought smaug was the last dragon? who are the others?
02-05-2004, 08:53 PM#59
Frostigt
he was the last, as far as i know, so then the rings couldn't be destroyed that way.
02-05-2004, 08:57 PM#60
Kamahl
So there are still four Rings of Power unaccounted for... there's all you need for your object, SuperPeon.