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05-23-2003, 03:56 AM#61
Guest
Yeah, Here's a suggestion. Allow me to design a map for you. After this next version, I'd like to map something that would be very well suited for the type of combat you'd wish to hold.

If you're interested, just send me a list of things you'd like to see and I'll hammer something down for you and make it really look like it's worth playing. I'm rather bored, my map team is taking a break until FT is released, so I need something to keep me busy.
05-24-2003, 04:05 AM#62
Fiery_Maelstrom
If anyone has any ideas for the following things please post, all your suggestions will be read and considered.

We need ideas for names for the following things.

- A unit that looks like the Slave Driver from the campaign (Orc, red, horns, glowing mace, rides a horse), and is anti-caster. Has Abolish magic + Spell immunity.

- A building with the Tauren Totem Model that builds Tauren and Ogres.

- Ogre Smash Lord's Avatar needs a new name. Try to make it have to do with Ogres :p

Well if anyone answers that would be great! Thanks!

Fiery_Maelstrom
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05-24-2003, 05:24 AM#63
Guest
Quote:
- A unit that looks like the Slave Driver from the campaign (Orc, red, horns, glowing mace, rides a horse), and is anti-caster. Has Abolish magic + Spell immunity.
  • Void Knight
  • Palladium Rider
  • Abolisher
  • Rune Crusher
Quote:
- A building with the Tauren Totem Model that builds Tauren and Ogres.
  • Hall of Honor
  • Totem of Age
  • Spirits Totem / Totem of Spirits
  • Blood Right Totem / Totem of Blood Right
  • Blood Pact Totem / Totem of Blood Pact
  • Blood Pledge Totem / Totem of Blood Pledge
Quote:
- Ogre Smash Lord's Avatar needs a new name. Try to make it have to do with Ogres :p
  • Brundle Bartoot
05-24-2003, 05:32 AM#64
Fiery_Maelstrom
I will go over them with Rivin. Me and Laevatienn came up with these ideas:

Slave Driver:
Laevatienn: Mana Searzist
Me: Mana Purgator

I like your Rune Crusher idea...

Tauren Totem:
Laevatienn: Tactics Totem

I like the honor idea fo yours... maybe we will use something like that.

We have no ideas for Avatar, and I didn't really get your idea.

Thanks for the Ideas.. Rune Crusher.. that is very cool.

Fiery_Maelstrom
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05-24-2003, 10:31 AM#65
Guest
I thought you meant he needs like a hero name or something, not like a "name", a "title" for what you called the model itself. Like my Rune Crusher suggestion above.

Did you want a name like that? You confused me.
05-24-2003, 03:18 PM#66
Fiery_Maelstrom
We just need ideas fort the actual names for the Slave Driver and Building. But for the Ogre, we need a new spell name for his Avatar. Sorry for the confusion.

Fiery_Maelstrom
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05-25-2003, 01:20 AM#67
Guest
By Avatar, I'm asuming the same spell that the Mountain King uses, not the Night Elf Warden.
  • Stone Skin
  • Iron Rage
  • War God Fury
  • War God's Fury
  • Alloy Guard
  • Panzer Rage
  • Panzer Fury
  • Panzer Beserker
05-25-2003, 01:29 AM#68
Fiery_Maelstrom
Hmm, those are some good ideas. I think I will take some of those words and maybe put them together and use that as the move.

Also, Warden doesn't have an Avatar. Closest thing I can think of is Spirit of Vengeance.

Fiery_Maelstrom
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05-25-2003, 10:42 AM#69
Guest
SoV is often considered the Warden's Avatar.
06-02-2003, 03:16 AM#70
Fiery_Maelstrom
Sorry, it's taking so long, Our World Editor isnt doing what we want it to do, and there is some ownership issues with 4 of the icons, but as soon as we resolve those problems, we are off to beta and then release :D

Fiery_Maelstrom
06-24-2003, 03:48 PM#71
Guest
yo i would like to help u im exxelent at triggers exept the cinematic tigers i would be glad to help
06-24-2003, 07:46 PM#72
Fiery_Maelstrom
Thanks for the offer, but since our map is an advanced melee, it's gameplay is close to normal melee. We have only a few tiny triggers and these are already done.

Progress of Map:

-We have found a desync error that could cause problems, so either we write down all the data and use the FT Editor to do it, or we spend days complete SLK editing the units :(

Besides that error, there are only a few minor problems to work out. I just hope our map is compatible w/ Frozen Throne.

-Fiery_Maelstrom
06-24-2003, 08:51 PM#73
Mr. Thermistor
"Protector of the Forest" name is unoriginal. He gets Holy Light and Feral Spirit (unfitting), both of which use the same hotkey.

The free expansion should not be free, and those creeps are far too close to your starting location. Expansions in general are too close together. In fact, I say there are too many ines on the map.

Some creep camps are too high, while others are too low. You shouldn't mix level 8 with level 2 creeps, and no level 8 creep should guard an expansion.

Long, narrow passages encourage offensive towering.
06-25-2003, 06:19 AM#74
Fiery_Maelstrom
Thanks for looking at the map :D

"Protector of the Forest" name is unoriginal.

- Any ideas? We are completely open to suggestions.

He gets Holy Light and Feral Spirit (unfitting), both of which use the same hotkey.

- He has custom spells in the next version and no hotkeys clash anymore.

Some creep camps are too high, while others are too low. You shouldn't mix level 8 with level 2 creeps, and no level 8 creep should guard an expansion.

- I will look into this; I will try to fix this. Next version will probably be released on two maps, so that if one does not meet your style the other might.

Long, narrow passages encourage offensive towering.

- I know about this.. ummm. It is hard to completely change the map, so maybe you will like the other map better.

Thanks for the feedback!

I was worried that no one cared anymore. Hopefully the next version will ship before Frozen Throne (For people who are sticking w/ Warcraft), but I will also rebalance everything so it works as soon as Frozen Throne comes out.

Desolace the map will probably not be the map used for the FT version, as it encourages creeping too much, and has little wood.

-Fiery_Maelstrom
06-25-2003, 07:12 AM#75
Fiery_Maelstrom
Does anyone have ideas for names for the following?:

Advanced Workers? Any ideas? They morph from the old workers directly so they are not entirely new units. We have them right now as simply "Peasant (advanced)"

A name for a move for the Ogre Smash Lord. It does damage in a nova area and stuns... Kinda like War Stomp.

Thanks,
Fiery_Maelstrom