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Troll Campaign: Battle for Felwood (temp. name)

10-06-2004, 03:37 AM#61
Med. MapGuy
I like your events, Zeal. Let me see if I get this straight...

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2- Small text saying WTH is happening in the world...
Will you be showing in some sort of events things like the rise of the Naga or the new Lich King? Perhaps you should make this a little more subtle... Try letting people in the cutscene talk about how this happened, or what happend to this... ;)

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4- Vol'gin is told of this at the edge of Felwood, and he watchs as he and two trolls (Coincedence?) Run and talk to him about the problems.....

So these two DT will alert Vol'gin of the crimes of the Night Elves? You know, I really don't think that Vol'gin and his tribe should be involved with this conflict. :\ Yeah, I know its a bummer, but the NE and the island trolls were "sort" of at odds with each other. I think this conflict should only involve the Jungle trolls of Stranglethorn, Forest Trolls of wherever, the Dark Trolls of Fellwood and the Ice Trolls of Northrend (If they weren't wiped out by the Scourge there!) I suppose Vol'gin could decline the DT's proposal of war with the NEs... Cuz' in mines I think he would... The messenger could be the DTs themselves in this situation.

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8- Messanger meets up with another island of trolls, they warcry.(note headhuner riding a hydra, (you'll see when you seen the cinmatic)

Another batch of island trolls could work. ^_^

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14- Vol'gin, Jag, JoJo, Rohkan, and a dark troll, are all on a ridge looking at their new warband.....THE


I think the Night Elves are going to get there whole forest over runned by em'! Are we still going to stick with what might happen at the World of Warcraft universe (where the trolls are defeated somehow and pushed back and no one ever speaks of the war again) or will we have an alternate ending to the story where all the Night Elves are dead? Which is which?

When can we expect a preview? I'm probably going to have one by Sunday!

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Originally Posted by tinymonster4
Once again, nice story, any motive?
The trolls need land?
10-06-2004, 06:49 PM#62
Zeal_
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Will you be showing in some sort of events things like the rise of the Naga or the new Lich King? Perhaps you should make this a little more subtle... Try letting people in the cutscene talk about how this happened, or what happend to this


I should of cleared that up. It will be small 25 second text that says whats happening with the NE and trolls.


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I think the Night Elves are going to get there whole forest over runned by em'! Are we still going to stick with what might happen at the World of Warcraft universe (where the trolls are defeated somehow and pushed back and no one ever speaks of the war again) or will we have an alternate ending to the story where all the Night Elves are dead? Which is which?


Be cool with alternate ending feature.
Maybe we could make a small decision in the campaign that determines if the NE win or the Trolls win.

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Another batch of island trolls could work


Actually, theres about 3 islands of trolls. Including Rohkans island, Jojo's island, and just one island.

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When can we expect a preview? I'm probably going to have one by Sunday!
IDK if i'll take screenys. Every time i convert them to jpgs them mess up. You will see pictures of the map, when i finish it and you play it.


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Once again, nice story, any motive?

Schwat?
10-10-2004, 01:04 AM#63
Med. MapGuy
Zeal, Zenador! What is up? I've prepared some screenshots of the introduction cutscene that I will send to you soon.

I'll only be releasing to you the map containing the scenes that lead up to this big (not necessarily epic) battle between the Night Elves and the Dark Trolls! Now the victor of that battle would obviously be those damn Elves... Mohawk Dak'zul, brother of the leader Zul'abar is going to be the only survivor of this bloody battle. :(

Note in the fifth screenshot:
This is the only scene with the Night Elves. I thought showing them having a meeting would slow down the flow of the cutscene too much. :\
10-10-2004, 04:08 PM#64
Zenador
Looking really good! Keep up the good work!
10-10-2004, 04:28 PM#65
Zeal_
Theres no point finishing my map, Yours is much better, terrain and custom wise. I'll still provide additional help tho. And plus i got other maps to do, GJ med.map.guy.

EDIT: Ne one gonna put a thread in 'maps in development' Or can we wait for Gooky to do that.
10-11-2004, 02:57 AM#66
Med. MapGuy
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Originally Posted by Zeal
Theres no point finishing my map, Yours is much better, terrain and custom wise. I'll still provide additional help tho. And plus i got other maps to do, GJ med.map.guy.

Okay... Wow. Perhaps you guys can help by designing where or what the story would be. You can also make Quests list, story twist and stuff! I'm still quite confused with who's who you know. :\ Once we have it all layed down here, you can start designing the missions yourself, Zeal. When you are done, I'll help you in making them look better!

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Ne one gonna put a thread in 'maps in development' Or can we wait for Gooky to do that


Hmm... One thread is enough I think. But if gooky likes... :god_help_us:
10-11-2004, 12:40 PM#67
Zeal_
Shouldnt gooky be here soon? I'm still pretty confused on whos doing what on this project. All i know is gookywooky is the leader, and i'm going to provide additional help, like storylines, and optional quest. And maybe items.
10-11-2004, 04:55 PM#68
Guest
I'm back from my trip.
Feedback: Well there are a few things with TToR troll race that i don't agree with. Cough snotlings cough but the models are great. Probably going to use all those building models, just tweak attachments so it uses orcbirth...
Ooooh cinematics are looking very good judging by screenies... but keep in mind that these probably won't be the final versions because there will probably be more custom models for some of the characters. But as is, looking great.
Oh, yeah, almost forgot... yes i think i'm going to make a thread in 'campaign developement' soon.

Keep up the good work. Are you guys going to post the cinematic maps themselves soon? Because as i said, they look and/or sound good.
There's no place like home.
10-12-2004, 04:50 AM#69
Med. MapGuy
Good to have you back, gook!

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Originally Posted by gookywooky
Feedback: Well there are a few things with TToR troll race that i don't agree with. Cough snotlings cough but the models are great. Probably going to use all those building models, just tweak attachments so it uses orcbirth...

Of course! But I'll let you worry about the units/races for the new Troll faction. They gotta resemble Orcs... But a little more diverse and more superiority over air. :\ You list whatever it is you had in mind for the units and tech tree.

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Ooooh cinematics are looking very good judging by screenies... but keep in mind that these probably won't be the final versions because there will probably be more custom models for some of the characters. But as is, looking great.

Great! Its even cooler seeing it in motion (I'd like to think that would be the case). That is why I've attached the link of the map here:

http://www.themappersguild.net/ftp/med.mapguy/Campaigns/(1)Troll.w3x

Now this is the unfinished version and as you said, many of the character models and names are only temporary. Sound effects haven't really been added aside from the music. There is one final track from the Gladiator soundtrack that has to be added for the battle...

The terrain could use one more type of foliage. And someone could really help me in making the dialogue "Troll-ish"! ^_^

Hopefully one of you folks can list down what kind of missions you have prepared for this short, yet cool campaign.
10-12-2004, 02:25 PM#70
Zenador
Well Zeal or Med perhaps you could make one of those things....what are they called....Uhh...They are like previews for the campaign....They say like Coming November 2004!
10-12-2004, 02:27 PM#71
Fladian
Those are called 'Trailers' ;)
10-12-2004, 02:42 PM#72
Zenador
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Originally Posted by Fladian
Those are called 'Trailers' ;)

Ah thx buddy
10-12-2004, 10:57 PM#73
Guest
med. mapguy, your map is excellent so far.
What have you to say, Zeal?
10-13-2004, 02:45 AM#74
Med. MapGuy
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Originally Posted by Zenador
Well Zeal or Med perhaps you could make one of those things....what are they called....Uhh...They are like previews for the campaign....They say like Coming November 2004!

We can be finished by November? The earliest would be Christmas! But if we all pool in our ideas I guess November isn't that impossible. Someone please detail the missions for this campaign please! And if possible - Not too much base building levels... Wait. Lets sort the story first, number of missions and then the gameplay.

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Originally Posted by Zeal
med. mapguy, your map is excellent so far.
What have you to say, Zeal?

Zeal can build the missions... But as I said earlier, we need to finalized the story. Gooky!!
10-13-2004, 03:50 AM#75
Guest
Well, story so far:
1. Initial conflict between elves and trolls, trolls send for help, (trumpets) trolls from all over come to the rescue.
2. Climate causes Ice Trolls to become very sick. Night Elves found to be very much more experienced from thousands of years of combat.
3. Trolls learn of ancient magic item that can manipulate the chemical processes in troll bodies (tooltip for the witch doctor actually does say that it manipulates processes, but back to the story), and thus can lower the ice trolls' body temperature, as well as giving all the trolls strength. An expidition is sent to find the item (the campaigns' underground/dungeon part ;) )
4. Alternating between battles against NEs and expidition dungeon-crawling.
5. Expidition finds and retreives item.
6. NEs decide that if the war goes on, they will suffer too many casualties. Druids of the Talon come and negotiate treaty with Trolls. Druids of the Claw aren't so happy, they were anticipating a good fight.
7. Trolls go home. Perhaps some missions involving getting home. Night Elves... look like this o_O because that was a pretty damn short war... if it works out, perhaps a sequel involving those agressive Druids of the Claw... but that would be a long time from now if it happened.