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11-07-2003, 04:47 AM#91
decadence
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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
.... You can't just make **** up and call it a quote, idiot. And why do you find the sudden need to call us immature... Cannot think of any ways to defend yourself? Well don't sweat.. There aren't any. You are guilty and I am pretty sure that I didn't want to hear anything from you.. as you are a complete asshole and think that everyone should worship the ground you walk on..


The Krall one was in a thread at modforge about the goatse thing.
The Aftershock one was in the wc3mf private channel.
The Zap and your one was in the channel after the first mass pruning.

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

Well wake up, it is the internet and no one gives two shits about you.


Thats funny, you seem to be talking to yourself now.

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

So you are saying without a doubt that a majority of the 15000+ members here all hate modforge... Cause you have talked to each one and even some that hate modforge so much, and love campaigns so dearly, they do not register?


Reread my post again please. I never said anything about people loving campaigns or all the campaigns members hating modforge. This is exactly what i meant when i said the modforge staff were a bunch of losers. Blind, to boot.

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

I will conclude merely laughing that you had to resort to using the exact thing I said against you and try to turn it on us. If you truly have yourself so conceited as to think that the rest of the site is behind you in the hacking when they actually are in the dark of it because of your censorship.. you're just being plain ignorant.

Say it with me : "B-L-I-N-D A-S A B-A-T". Or just really really stupid. Maybe even both.

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

I am pretty sure your opinion has been stated a few times throughout this thread.. trying to beat it into our heads like a nail is not going to help.. get lost so some other people can express their opinions, Raging.

-Fiery_Maelstrom


This is quite enough. You should be the one getting lost, and you will.
11-07-2003, 04:50 AM#92
Fiery_Maelstrom
Whatever... I don't want to be banned because you are being a prick.. so.. have fun pruning forums and editing peoples posts when they are not looking and being a general pain in the ***.. I am not risking banning because of you so..

That or I'd hate to have my name changed to Friggin_Motherfugger again and have my protrait screwed with because your having another bad day like last time. I really wish I felt secure enough here to express my thoughts without being threatened.. but you have been known to, in the case of losing an argument, screw with my account, so I will let you win this one..

There, you have won.. go celebrate with Dorelian doing whatever you guys do... I guess I never realized that someone could just up and replace "RagingDemon" in every sentence with "Fiery_Maelstrom".. and then think they had proved the other wrong..

Well apparently, the way to prove your not an asshole is to call someone an asshole.. So I guess I went into this thinking the wrong way.

Fiery_Maelstrom
11-07-2003, 05:08 AM#93
decadence
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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Whatever... I don't want to be banned because you are being a prick.. so.. have fun pruning forums and editing peoples posts when they are not looking and being a general pain in the ***.. I am not risking banning because of you so..


I'll remember to tell the spokesperson to add a "This was approved by Fiery_Maelstrom, so blame him!" at the end of our announcements whenever we do anything to mofo in future, thanks =).

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

That or I'd hate to have my name changed to Friggin_Motherfugger again and have my protrait screwed with because your having another bad day like last time. I really wish I felt secure enough here to express my thoughts without being threatened.. but you have been known to, in the case of losing an argument, screw with my account, so I will let you win this one..


Uh. It was `Dorelian, but I'm glad you liked it, because I loved your cool monkey avatar and stuff =).

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

There, you have won.. go celebrate with Dorelian doing whatever you guys do... I guess I never realized that someone could just up and replace "RagingDemon" in every sentence with "Fiery_Maelstrom".. and then think they had proved the other wrong..

You know, you are really trying to make my hand slip, aren't you?
11-07-2003, 05:19 AM#94
Fiery_Maelstrom
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I'll remember to tell the spokesperson to add a "This was approved by Fiery_Maelstrom, so blame him!" at the end of our announcements whenever we do anything to mofo in future, thanks =).

I was commenting on your untrustfulness here. You and your "friends" are obsessed with modforge now that we have made you mad.. of course your going to hack us.. I was warning people here who piss you off. They have no guarantees you won't mess with their hard work.. Especially since you were such a "loyal" member at modforge now that we look back.

If you help yourself to screwing people's accounts up over there, what's to stop you or Dorelian from screwing accounts over here of people who piss you off?

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Uh. It was `Dorelian, but I'm glad you liked it, because I loved your cool monkey avatar and stuff =).


Yeah.. it was hilarious.. oh wait.. except that was another person's avatar you changed to the monkey... mine was that old lady.. I am not even going to ask how you run into disgusting pictures and sites like goatse.cx (unless your hiding some strange fetish from us)... What exactly do you do in your spare time when you aren't flaming anybody.. surf the web for old ladies?

Well.. since I don't want "you're hand to slip" i will again repeat what I said..

You won. You can flame better than me, faster, more effective.. You are a master of web search engines and I am in awe of your greatness.. If only the people who saw what I saw where but a fraction of you and your unregistered followers.. I would maybe stand a chance..

Spare me. Post something worthwhile that wasn't posted by me orginally.. then maybe we can talk about mending the community you and your friends try to control.

-Fiery_Maelstrom
11-07-2003, 05:30 AM#95
FireAarro
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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
... eh.. right anyways. So if he flamed skull, that should give them permission to mass-prune our forums, Hack the site, crack peoples passwords, screw with their accounts, comandeer the IRC channel, censor our site, ban projects that are hosted there, and create websites about what they call "wc3mofo" (if you don't understand.. it is Dorelian and Raging's clever pun on words by removing the --d--rge to create mofo.).

Can you even read? I was talking about the ****ING RULE, NOT THE PRUNING OF YOUR FORUMS WITH THE PASSWORDS THAT HOLLOWMAN GAVE AWAY. And WC3MoFo is an ABBREVIATION. God dammit, IT'S NOT ****ING FLAMING WHEN YOU ABBREVIATE NAMES. WE DON'T START FLAMING WHEN PEOPLE CALL US WC3C, SO WHY SHOULD YOU?


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
If the immature people (skull, Raging, Dorelian) were removed from the staff here, than I am sure it would be a much more tolerable place and that possibly our two sites could get along much better. Not everyone is as fanatic about this problem as they are and I am sure that many of the people at modforge do not hate campaigns and would not like to hack it/cause huge disturbances and in fact would just like to see us get along.

A lot of people (relatively of course, four is already a lot on your site) think otherwise.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
This intolerable behavior will only continue unless you realize that getting rid of them would be a step forward, and would reduce this site's labeled "totalitarian" attitude to other sites. These individuals are trashing wc3c rep as a main modding site and people are realizing their immaturity. If you do care about the community and the modders in it, I do believe you would at least consider dropping them as an option.


Do realize that banning those members was what caused Modforge to be hacked in the first place. Common sense still applies on the internet. For us at least. Also see below.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
So you are saying without a doubt that a majority of the 15000+ members here all hate modforge... Cause you have talked to each one and even some that hate modforge so much, and love campaigns so dearly, they do not register?

Members that aren't registered here? You do realize you're making yourself look like a complete fool, do you not?


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
I will conclude merely laughing that you had to resort to using the exact thing I said against you and try to turn it on us. If you truly have yourself so conceited as to think that the rest of the site is behind you in the hacking when they actually are in the dark of it because of your censorship.. you're just being plain ignorant.

Haha.. you people make me sad. I can't believe you are so blind as to say such a stupid thing like that. God. Most of the staff ARE actually supporting the pruning and spamming of ModForge, but do you think they'd admit it in public? And of course they ****ing know, it's been talked about in IRC for god's sake. And they laugh.
11-07-2003, 05:40 AM#96
decadence
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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
I was commenting on your untrustfulness here. You and your "friends" are obsessed with modforge now that we have made you mad.. of course your going to hack us.. I was warning people here who piss you off. They have no guarantees you won't mess with their hard work.. Especially since you were such a "loyal" member at modforge now that we look back.


I wouldn't do anything to Wc3C, really. I wasn't involved in the modforge thing in the first place. But since the passwords and all were practically handed over, it would be a waste not to use them, wouldn't it?

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

If you help yourself to screwing people's accounts up over there, what's to stop you or Dorelian from screwing accounts over here of people who piss you off?


Because Wc3C isnt run by a bunch of losers like mofo is.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Yeah.. it was hilarious.. oh wait.. except that was another person's avatar you changed to the monkey... mine was that old lady.. I am not even going to ask how you run into disgusting pictures and sites like goatse.cx (unless your hiding some strange fetish from us)... What exactly do you do in your spare time when you aren't flaming anybody.. surf the web for old ladies?


For the last time, it was `Dorelian. I dont think supermods actually have the power to change people's titles and stuff. And the pictures were from uglypeople.com. I know you'll be sad because you wont be able to find pictures of them on your granny porn sites, but life's like that :(.

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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom

Spare me. Post something worthwhile that wasn't posted by me orginally.. then maybe we can talk about mending the community you and your friends try to control.

-Fiery_Maelstrom


We aren't trying to control any community. We are trying to remove a site run by losers from the internet. And obviously there's also the really big reason that `Dorelian still owns half the site and he has every right to get people to help him do whatever he likes to it.
11-07-2003, 06:29 AM#97
alpengeist36
just out of interest, i would be interested to know what dorelian would DO if he got modforge (all of it, not just re-admined)...
11-07-2003, 09:06 AM#98
Deathwing
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Originally posted by alpengeist36
just out of interest, i would be interested to know what dorelian would DO if he got modforge (all of it, not just re-admined)...


Shut it down.
11-07-2003, 11:15 AM#99
FireAarro
I wouldn't be surprised, seeing what it's turned into. Either that or he'll try and raise the intelligence level. By whatever means necessary.
11-07-2003, 01:47 PM#100
Vexorian
Argh, all this mofo vs campaigns stuff is getting me tired, If you really want to destroy that losers site, ignore it, it seems that only your anti mofo behaviur makes people note it.
11-07-2003, 10:13 PM#101
Capn_Sniffies
You know, it wouldn't surprise me a whole lot if Skull did hack ModForge on purpose. I don't think he likedd the idea of ModForge stealing this site's glory. :ggani:

Ok, enough of this. We people here really need to get a life. :bgrun:
11-07-2003, 10:45 PM#102
Fiery_Maelstrom
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Can you even read? I was talking about the ****ING RULE, NOT THE PRUNING OF YOUR FORUMS WITH THE PASSWORDS THAT HOLLOWMAN GAVE AWAY. And WC3MoFo is an ABBREVIATION. God dammit, IT'S NOT ****ING FLAMING WHEN YOU ABBREVIATE NAMES. WE DON'T START FLAMING WHEN PEOPLE CALL US WC3C, SO WHY SHOULD YOU?


eh.. I won't argue with that I guess... If Skull does want to screw the community by limiting their options.. he can freely do so on his site and get away with it.

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Do realize that banning those members was what caused Modforge to be hacked in the first place. Common sense still applies on the internet. For us at least.


So you are saying that if you de-staffed them, they would turn on their own site like nothing? Well, not the kind of people I would want around.

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Members that aren't registered here? You do realize you're making yourself look like a complete fool, do you not?


If you read RagingDemon's post, which I thought was implied considering it was above mine, you would see that it is he who mentions these unregistered people for no reason that involves this...

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Haha.. you people make me sad. I can't believe you are so blind as to say such a stupid thing like that. God. Most of the staff ARE actually supporting the pruning and spamming of ModForge, but do you think they'd admit it in public? And of course they ****ing know, it's been talked about in IRC for god's sake. And they laugh.


You are one to talk FireAaro, considering how you are one of the top staff on the ladder.. Yet, if you're comments are true about most of the 13 Directors here approving of using malicious tactics against other sites.. That is a issue that they might want to deal with themselves one day, because I don't think they see that this is the internet and that they are resorting to hacking to get rid of a competeing "INTERNET GAMING SITE".... Maybe if it was a rival gang.. or something.. but come on.. It is just two sites that try to help the modding community of Warcraft. That is just pathetic.

I do have more faith in the staff here, and I am not going to go assuming stuff based on an IRC chat channel.

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I wouldn't do anything to Wc3C, really. I wasn't involved in the modforge thing in the first place. But since the passwords and all were practically handed over, it would be a waste not to use them, wouldn't it?


You did so.. You just said earlier you had fun editing posts and screwing with topics until you finally got to mass-prune.... Tad bit of contradiction don't you think?

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Because Wc3C isnt run by a bunch of losers like mofo is.


.. ok, now you aren't even trying to make a point...

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For the last time, it was `Dorelian. I dont think supermods actually have the power to change people's titles and stuff. And the pictures were from uglypeople.com. I know you'll be sad because you wont be able to find pictures of them on your granny porn sites, but life's like that


You just had the power to mass-prune, edit posts, and delete topics secretly... amd thanks for telling me where the pics are from.. wait.. No one cares.. Move on.

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We aren't trying to control any community. We are trying to remove a site run by losers from the internet. And obviously there's also the really big reason that `Dorelian still owns half the site and he has every right to get people to help him do whatever he likes to it.


Ok, so you are not trying to control the community.. you are just trying to control it by removing opposition... uh huh. And about him owning the site, if he owns his own site and feels no loyalty to it.. I wonder how loyal he feels to a site he is simply a Global moderator at..

Seriously, I know I have better things to do than come here and reply to barely-thought-through responses to my points, and I am sure you have better things to do then post whatever comes to mind... So can't we just agree to disagree? I realize how childish this is, and I am embarassed to be arguing with you two over a stupid internet feud.

My point is we should try to work together to progress the war 3 mod community and encourage the word of mods and maps to get around. That means not restricting them to only be hosted at one site. I don't even see why you are so mad. If anyone wanted any real good info of COTD, they came here anyways.

Zurg here has been one of the most positive, pro-community modders around and because of his pro-community ideas.. he has been ousted from here. I may be falling on deaf ears.. but I do not understand this hatred for modforge... *Especially* people who have never been there and are only going on other's opinions.

Obviously some of the people here are biased and I am sure that no matter what is said, they will not change their opinions.. but to the people who are not, I only ask that you think about this from a community-as-a-whole angle... and not a single site that wants to get all the members from all the other sites.

-Fiery_Maelstrom
11-07-2003, 11:04 PM#103
FireAarro
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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
So you are saying that if you de-staffed them, they would turn on their own site like nothing? Well, not the kind of people I would want around.

That one made me laugh out loud.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
If you read RagingDemon's post, which I thought was implied considering it was above mine, you would see that it is he who mentions these unregistered people for no reason that involves this...

I was talking about your improper use of the word members. If they're not registered on WC3C, they certainly are not members of our site, no?


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
You are one to talk FireAaro, considering how you are one of the top staff on the ladder.. Yet, if you're comments are true about most of the 13 Directors here approving of using malicious tactics against other sites.. That is a issue that they might want to deal with themselves one day, because I don't think they see that this is the internet and that they are resorting to hacking to get rid of a competeing "INTERNET GAMING SITE".... Maybe if it was a rival gang.. or something.. but come on.. It is just two sites that try to help the modding community of Warcraft. That is just pathetic.

I don't see how your site is helping the community in any way. By the way, they don't approve of it, they just are fine with it and share a laugh or two.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
I do have more faith in the staff here, and I am not going to go assuming stuff based on an IRC chat channel.

Which is where the majority of their speech comes from.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Ok, so you are not trying to control the community.. you are just trying to control it by removing opposition... uh huh. And about him owning the site, if he owns his own site and feels no loyalty to it.. I wonder how loyal he feels to a site he is simply a Global moderator at..

Would you seriously feel loyal to a site that kicked you out for hardly any reason at all?


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Seriously, I know I have better things to do than come here and reply to barely-thought-through responses to my points, and I am sure you have better things to do then post whatever comes to mind... So can't we just agree to disagree? I realize how childish this is, and I am embarassed to be arguing with you two over a stupid internet feud.

The only reason they seem not well thought out is because you can't read. Simple?


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
My point is we should try to work together to progress the war 3 mod community and encourage the word of mods and maps to get around. That means not restricting them to only be hosted at one site. I don't even see why you are so mad. If anyone wanted any real good info of COTD, they came here anyways.

They're only mad because Hollowman is a dumbass and flamed our admins before we even did anything. If you even read the posts, the rule only applies to MoFo. You can host your project anywhere else and WC3C, except for MoFo.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Zurg here has been one of the most positive, pro-community modders around and because of his pro-community ideas.. he has been ousted from here. I may be falling on deaf ears.. but I do not understand this hatred for modforge... *Especially* people who have never been there and are only going on other's opinions.

I never really saw him do anything, but I didn't actually visit the cinematic forum.


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Originally posted by Fiery_Maelstrom
Obviously some of the people here are biased and I am sure that no matter what is said, they will not change their opinions.. but to the people who are not, I only ask that you think about this from a community-as-a-whole angle... and not a single site that wants to get all the members from all the other sites.

-Fiery_Maelstrom


And you're not biased?
11-07-2003, 11:15 PM#104
Fiery_Maelstrom
I am not posting in this thread anymore. So critique what I said all you want. I have no more to debate.
11-08-2003, 03:00 AM#105
Beam
Does anyone remember when this site was hacked by those brazilian hackers? Everyone was pretty pissed right? I was. Well, that's pretty close to what happened at modforge. Everyone was pretty pissed. It also happened to modforge twice. Try to put yourselves in modforge's shoes. Wouldn't you be mad if your site was messed up, and the forums were deleted, numerous times, by people who were trying to destroy the site, unlike the brazilian hacker dudes that hacked here, who were trying to help the site? This whole situation is really dumb. There is no need for all this animosity, no need for all these threats of messing up modforge again, no need for modforge members to flame people here, no need for members here to flame modforge members. Modforge as a site never did anything to wc3c as a site. Why are these people allowed to continue doing this? Why don't you guys just hack the people you dont like, instead of the site, and inconviencing many other people that you don't even know?