Warcraft IV: Back to War

You should atleast show something that happends to everyone and not just go into orcs fighting humans again. Im just saying that maybe you should change the story a bit. I've seen better stories of warcraft VI than this.

I was just looking at the beggining of this thread and it hit me. You said that outlanders suffer from weakness right? So why even give them a mounted unit, they're ussually the most powerful units there are in the game. Even if you do decide to give them a powerhuose unit, why not make it a naga myrmidon or royal guard? Just an idea.

but he also said at the beginning of the thread that he would do all custom units. that means no naga myrmidon or royal guard.

archean...if you decide to not use the bloodelf mounted unit, try going for a mage-powerhouse. like melee bloodelf sorcerer thing.

idk, just an idea.

-flames'

and i just saw after i PMed you armels post about the wingless cappy. at least i tried...lol

ill have that siren/witch for you soon.

imma go see dodgeball now...oops im OT

Hold it! I do recall saying in the Main Plot post when Kyanou asked me about the Campaign storyline that it wasn't just Orc fighting humans again.
This is what I had said in that post:
1) There is a civil war in Azeroth
2) For some mysterious reason, Lordaeron refuses to do have anything to do with Azeroth.
3) The King of Azeroth has become mad.
4) The Horde is not only fighting humans. Many Chieftains are plotting to overthrow the Warchief, during the invasion.
5) The Outlander Warleader is divided between following orders from her king and risk her race's destruction or break away from them and follow wisdom.

All of those can be read in the above plot post.
And:

How can you say that it's only Orc vs Humans?

aaa - I've already got loads of Naga units. So I settled on the Blood Rider.

Good lord, 4 pages already. Damn this is fast growing.
Well, it seems that I did manage todraw a line to the Elf immortality argument. So what's the new argument now? Should the Lich King be in? And wether or not this mod mirrors Warcraft II.
Right, from what I see this mod mirrors Warcraft II with the gameplay. Not storyline-wise. I disagree with you GamerSword. If you have a good look, then there is more then simple Orc vs Humans. Archean has actually thrown in hell of a lot of hints in his posts about the plot. But I'l leave you guys to find those. Besides, he did explain who was fighting who in the above posts. ^^
I also would like to see the Lich King in. It would be a bit weird if one of humanity's greatest enemies were to just disappear. However, I also disagree with some you said GamerSword.
You said that Ner'Zhul was the biggest problem. He's not. The only reason he's been invading Lordaeron and killed so many people, was because he was under control of the Burning Legion. His only actual goal was to find a body and break free of the Burning Legion (and Icecrown).
During Reign of Chaos. He was everybody's greatest threat.
But now, he has got everything he wanted; a body, he is free from the Frozen Throne and he is free of the Burning Legion. Ner'Zhul has got no reason to go and invade the rest of the world.
However, the Lich King does fear Illidan. At first Illidan was sent to destroy him, but he failed. And Illidan is probably no longer under orders of Kil'Jaeden since he failed his task for the second time in a row and Kil'Jaeden said he would give him one last chance.
So, the Lich King isn't really a threat anymore.

Back to Archean's plot. As you have read above. the Lich King has got no reason to invade, so we can't him as the unber bad guy who seeks to destroy the wolrd.
We also know that the Blood Elves and Nagas have sworn to take their revenbe upon the Lich King after their defeat at Icecrown (says so in the manual of monsters).
Then we know that Draneis hate Orcs. That Blood Elves hate humans, and are probably not fan of Night Elves. And finally we know that Nagas hate Night Elves. Therefore, they hate both the Horde and the Alliance.
Then the Alliance and the Horde also have little love for each other. And they are at war.
So, my suggestion:

Okay Archean. Here's the orc Stable's. And please people, keep in mind that this is VERY WiP (work in progress). Think that it's 1.00 version. Give me some hint's how to make it look more orcish (daemonic orcish!).

Edit: Hmm.. It doesen't seem to upload :\ . Screenshot is .bmp (I dont have my Photoshop with me..), what's wrong with it??

Edit 2: Could you give me your e-mail Archean. I'll send the pic to you.. (god I still hate this new page..).

sent it at [email protected]
And Kyanou, it's a good story but I'll have to make change to it to add in some other things I had in mind, such as the civil war and all. So it may be used but with some changes.

Still u need skinner and modeler??, I can make some buildingzz

:D Great mod! I'm really looking forward to playing it! I like your concept!
I don't care if the elves are mortal or immortal, I don't care if the Scourge is still around or not, I'm just looking for a fun to play mod!

But if you really had to put the Lich King in the storyline, I would've made the the Horde and the Alliance, due to their internal problems the losing factions and the Outlanders the winning faction, until they suddenly encounter the Lich King, he confronts the Outlanders. Eventually, both he and a great part of the Outlanders army are destroyed, and there will be no true victor in this war. ( Well, telling the end of a plot is sorta ruining it... )

Well, this is just an idea, I'm one of those guys, thinking they have mod plots, but when it comes to making a mod, they can do nothing, no terraining, no skinning, no modelling ...

So I'll just watch this mod and wait until it's finished!

Just warning you guys, this thing is not dead. I'm away from the computer right now and will be for quite a while without internet acces either so. So don't expect any news for quite a while. So all these guys to whom I asked models/skins or anything else. Just hold on to them for a while longer and I'll see them and get working on the mod soon.
-Archean

yes ok well when will you be back full time then??

Archean, are you still using the other thread? Please let me know because then I know where to post my work.

does anyone know where i can get the campaign footman that you had on the first page? i would really like it for a orcs vs humans map i am making right now...

Thanks,
Dragonfox


PS: This 'mod' sounds really good! keep up the good work!

I've uploaded a fixed version here: http://www.wc3campaigns.com/showthre...ear#post529862 . Credit goes to Hadeniaz, I only did some basic modifications.

thanks armel!!