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Coastal Conflict: Maiev vs. Illidan

02-08-2004, 12:18 PM#121
erwtenpeller
i dont think its very needed to 'restyle' the Illidan guys... we still got some holes in some concepts and i think we got pretty funky and inspired convepts for Illidan... so... if you come up with new stuff.. fine with me. (still need that ulti on the flesheater, for example.)

spill it if ya got a good idea...

idea for that flameguy:
-blaze- send forth a wave of fire.
-engulf- engulf target unit in flames, dealing damage to units around it.
-heat(passive)- this passive gives all your skills an aftervurn, like flamestrike and rain of fire. Units will keep burning after you cast the spell. Damage over time increases each level.
-some über ultimate, wich has something to do with phoenixes-
cuz the phoenix is the master of flame :D

EDIT: or maybe blaze... as ultimate, that would be neat as well.... (you know... leave a train of fire in your wake...)
02-08-2004, 12:28 PM#122
Vig0r
ownage! :D i really, really like heat.. it pawnz!

engulf cud use a other name maybe, it reminds me 2 much of the flamelord (dota) :bgrun:

maybe as ultimate: some cool phoenix style buff to temporarly increase attack damage, but decrease armor... how does that sound?
02-08-2004, 01:03 PM#123
erwtenpeller
well, i dunno... that would mean it doesnt use heat, and the point of heat is that it increases the efficiencie of every spell... i was more thinking among the lines of somekind of rain of fire...
02-08-2004, 01:06 PM#124
Vig0r
I said other NAME not other SKILL the skill is fine... :hammer:
02-08-2004, 01:31 PM#125
Kirym
could you point out to me what hero on what page uses the that sandy stuff you want?
02-08-2004, 01:38 PM#126
erwtenpeller
here ya go:

Quote:
...Naga Dune Wich...
...Intelligence...

...quick sand...
slows units in an AoE, Damage to buildings lasts a period of time. (not sure if we should make this strong and channeling or weak and just one time cast...)

...sand stream...
deal damage to some units, using a wave of sand. not sure what arts to give to this though... but we´ll figure that out.

...sand storm... create a sand storm that will damage and blind units that are too close to it. Not sure if this shoud be summon or channel either, but at least one of them should be channel, and the other summon.

...Dune Worm Maggot... (ultimate)
Plant a dune worm magot in target init, slowely eating it from inside out. if target unit dies while under the effect of the spell, the corpse will spawn a very weak maggot, that will eveolve into a stronger creature (probubly scorpion) after 10 seconds, if you can manage to keep it alive that long.

the big picture behind this hero is, in a strange way quite simulair to the soul revenant, its all about the ultimate. the damage over time dune maggot gives is minor, becouse its a weak magot, and once it erupts from the corpse its even more vulnerable. The idea is that you can use sand storm and quick sand to make it easyer to pull you magot out of the battlefield before anyone kills it, insuring its survival. the nuke skill is more to make sure that target enemy dies while the magot is inside target unit. once the magot has evelved, you will have a VERY powerfull creature with no timer!

for this hero we´ll need a brown tornado and probubly a brown waterfall for the nuke, if thats possible...

if this hero is on then the fire mages´ skills wil be transferred to the blood elf captain skin, and we´ll have our last tank.
02-08-2004, 01:47 PM#127
Kirym
Quicksand could easily be used as an aura using a more lighter version of the slow spell,

Sand Stream- I could change crushing wave

Sand Storm- Storm as in water or storm as in like a tornado?

Maggot- That worm model, problem solved
02-08-2004, 02:14 PM#128
Kirym
Sand Stream, i think i got the back down
02-08-2004, 02:26 PM#129
erwtenpeller
Quote:
Originally posted by Kirym
Quicksand could easily be used as an aura using a more lighter version of the slow spell,
we dont want it to be an aura, we want it to be like earthquake.
Quote:
Sand Stream- I could change crushing wave
looks promesing so far... just change the blue into light brown sandish and it should work perfectly :D
Quote:
Sand Storm- Storm as in water or storm as in like a tornado?
as in tornado.... but a tornado of sand. very lightish brown u know...
Quote:
Maggot- That worm model, problem solved
when was there a problem with that skill!?

keep up the good work!
02-08-2004, 05:19 PM#130
Vig0r
pretty nice! cant wait till ya finished :zball:
02-08-2004, 08:15 PM#131
Tiki
screenshots guys, will help
02-08-2004, 08:38 PM#132
erwtenpeller
..right... maybe we'll post some soon. dont expact anything really spectaculair though... the map remains focussed on gameplay, not visual splender.
02-08-2004, 09:49 PM#133
EL-Azmodeus
This looks like it could turn out to be a pretty promising map, good work guys! My only concern is...what happened to Kael and Vashj? =(

Anyway, are there other ways to contribute to your cause without having to make up heroes? I was a little intimidated by the informality of the last couple of pages... Do you like have a list of skins people could for you or something? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd like to help you guys out.:ggani:
02-08-2004, 10:07 PM#134
erwtenpeller
there is a link in my sig that leads to a contest/request thread wich hold info about skins we need. and about vash and kael... unfortunatly the naga sea wich is heavely overpowered in an eos. frost arrows is no escape from getting pwned, and mana shield is too good as well (just get mass mana regen and ur invincable) so unfortunatly she is out. as for kael... i kinda dislike bloodmages, so thats personal. He might make his appearance as the Illidans Forces special merchant though...

but u are right, you found a leak in the story... what happoned to vashj and kael?

...

guess they got killed by maievs forces in previouse attempts to kill Illidan.

the sea wich skin will be used though, for the naga ranger :D

we might need a reskinned furion for our dream guy...
02-08-2004, 11:48 PM#135
EL-Azmodeus
You're just going to kill Kael? :( That makes me sad, and will possibly bar me from playing the map. Kael is by far the most awesome character! You need to at least have Kael/Vashj appear in the like Illidan victory cinematic or something!:ggani: