HomeUser Control Panel (unavailable in archive)ForumsTutorialsArt GalleryResourcesMaps

Ai making Competition

04-22-2008, 02:53 PM#1
Tosserinko
Greetings I plays warcraft 3tft 2 years, I am 35lvl battle net solo player. (excuse for my bad English). Except for real people I like very much to play with AI, in particular with AMAI as I for a long time work with AMAI, and have considerably improved its game (playing with it 1x1 or 2x2). I am excited very much with a problem of development of intelligence for wc3 and intelligence as a whole. I am assured that at the given forum there are many people which are engaged in intelligence except for Strategy Master therefore I declare competition on the best AI for WC3. Conditions:
1. It is possible to use any basis AI like AMAI to work.
2. It is possible to make as universal AI (as AMAI) and to adhere it to 1 map.
3. AI should not cheat.
4. AI should play on "average" computer skill.
Condition of a victory:
1. AI should win me in 1x1 game.
Prize: 150 $ - by webmoney, egold or paypal transfer.
Please make offers and take your works right here, good luck!
my ICQ - 413904, my e-mail [email protected]
PS As a token of respect for the Strategy Master I can transfer it 50 $ at any moment.
04-27-2008, 02:40 AM#2
Elf.Lysander
AMAI is being worked since at least 3 years, and is the best AI for Wc3 Melee Battle. You could beat AMAI, you could beat any AI.

Anyway, CPU are strong playing some game like chess, but not very good playing warcraft3-like game.

AI Pro's:

- Can handle multiple situation at a time
- Can react very quickly (not so true for Warcraft 3, i'll explain later)

AI Con's

- Cannot evaluate situation as accurate as a human. You could give AI a set of rules to operate, and AI will act according to them. Human can evaluate each situation and decide.
- Cannot adapt like a human. You could give him an order to execute, a building order to follow, but each unattended thing that occur need to re-evaluate all from the beginning according to the situation. So the rule you gave to AI may be not wise to use in a specific situation. A human can be aware of that, AI cannot.

AI Warcraft 3 Related Con's

- Lots of hardcoded things that you have no control about it.
- I remember a post saying that when AI is microing his units, it only checks the situation and take an action each 2 second. So a battle is like fighting versus an 30 APM player.

This is the AI nowadays. Maybe something could be done in the right direction taking advantage of the AI ability of handling multiple things, basically you could execute as many actions as you have time to do it, the AI doesnt need time to do that, so it's like he can do almost infinite actions at any moment.
But this is only possible with spending a lot of development for the AI in the new games that will come, right now the AI commands are given by very slow scripts that use a lot of CPU power.
04-27-2008, 09:19 AM#3
Tosserino
Hi Lysander! thx for your answer.
Quote:
AMAI is being worked since at least 3 years, and is the best AI for Wc3 Melee Battle. You could beat AMAI, you could beat any AI.
Yes, AMAI is the best AI for now, but I dont think there is no AI that can beat human. An example: dota AI, sometimes playing dota vs. AI I give up coz it's very strong, it has good micro and strategy. I think smdy can do such AI to 1 map, like Lost Temple, and AI will play good only within this map...
04-28-2008, 10:55 PM#4
Strategy Master
Good luck with the competition. I'm not sure though how much competition you will get. Moyacks standard AI competition number of contestents has been rather low over here..