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The Wars of Warcraft: Opinions and Ideas

04-28-2008, 12:02 AM#1
TheSecretArts
I would like to say that this is the Wars of Warcraft Saga Map Idea Thread. This is where I tell you what I plan to make and you tell me what you want to see or not see. This is also the place where you say things like "I would like to see this warcraft war/conflict covered." I'll research it and get back to you if it would work, and I'd add it to the list

Here is the list of maps I am definately going to do:
(6) The First War - Takes place in Elwynn Forest, Swamp of Sorrows, Black Morass. Obviously during the first war
Human Forces: Stormwind Humans, Northshire Clerics
Orcish Forces: Orcish Clans, Shadow Council
Renegade (Unallied to anyone): Turok's Outlaws, Medivh's Denizens

(6) Outland Conflicts - Takes place on Outland, with the Draenei / Blood Elven conflict. After the defection of the scryers.
Forces of Shattrath: Sha'tar, Aldor, Scryers
Forces of Tempest Keep: Sunfury Elves, Forge Base: Gehenna, Forge Base: Oblivion

(11) The Second War - Takes place on Eastern Kingdoms. Obviously this is the second war
Alliance: Human Nations, High Elves, Loch Modan Dwarves, Gnomeregan, Dalaran.
Horde: Orcish Clans, Trolls, Red Dragonflight (captives), Ogres, Goblins
Both: Alterac (Can choose to secede and join horde)

(9) The Alliance Expedition - Takes place on Draenor after the events of the Second War
Alliance: Dalaran Forces, Silver Hand Forces, Wildhammer Forces, Stromgarde Forces
Horde: Orcish Clans, Trolls, Ogres, Goblins.
Both: Laughing Skull Clan (Starts on Horde but can join Alliance)

(3) The Troll Wars (Submitted by Erwtenpeller)- Takes place in Quel'Thalas and Arathi Highlands.
No Allies at start: Gurubashi Trolls, High Elves, Arathi Humans (Can Ally elves).

(4) The War of the Ancients (Submitted by rulerofiron99)- Takes place at the Well of Eternity and Kalimdor
Defenders of Kalimdor: The Night Elves, The Dragonflights
Attackers of Kalimdor: The High Elves, The Burning Legion

<Your conflict here>

To be approved conflict zone:
Twisting Nether (Nuclear Arbitor)
Dwarven Expedition (rulerofiron99)
Theramore / Durotar Conflict (rulerofiron99)
Draenish Holocaus (rulerofiron99)
Tauren and Centaur Conflict (rulerofiron99)

Tell me, what do you want these conquest based maps to have?
Your opinion matters! I want to know what you think. Be positive and serious please.

And yes, somehow this project is creeppiinng across the boards. Its not intentional i swear :P
04-28-2008, 12:14 AM#2
Nuclear Arbitor
kadghar with his blizzard and fire ball. and holy dong. be cool if u did them in the twisting nether, where ever the hell the went.
04-28-2008, 09:13 AM#3
erwtenpeller
The troll wars, where the trolls allmost annihalated the humans but then the elves came along to help them, and taught them how to use magic. Could be a cool times thing where you have to hold off as long as you can. :)
04-28-2008, 10:54 AM#4
TheSecretArts
I like it! I'll figure out the races and write them down.
Im not too sure about the twisting nether but I can try to think of something.
04-28-2008, 02:48 PM#5
rulerofiron99
1. Dwarven Expedition to Northrend vs. Scourge (not just the part in the campaign, but also a bit before it, must include the nerubian cities)

2. Draenor - Orcs wipe out Draenei. Completely.

3. The legion's first invasion vs. the ancients.

4. tauren vs. centaurs in the barrens.

5. theramore isle / durotar - orcs vs. humans
04-28-2008, 04:25 PM#6
TheSecretArts
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwtenpeller
The troll wars, where the trolls allmost annihalated the humans but then the elves came along to help them, and taught them how to use magic. Could be a cool times thing where you have to hold off as long as you can. :)

Added, oh, and the elves didn't come to help. They attacked the humans, but created a mutual alliance when the outcome turned bleak to beat the trolls.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rulerofiron99
3. The legion's first invasion vs. the ancients.

added. Its the War of the Ancients.
04-28-2008, 11:06 PM#7
Nuclear Arbitor
when did the dwarfs ally with the elves?
04-28-2008, 11:53 PM#8
TheSecretArts
When dwarves entered the alliance. Sometime around the second war I'd presume.
04-29-2008, 03:23 PM#9
Burning Rose
Hmm... I think you've got about everything here. At least that I can think of. I geuss if you're allowing skirmishes, and not really wars too, then You can do other racial conflicts, like say...
Dwarves vs. Frost Trolls
Dwarves vs. Each other (But I think there's already a project about the three hammers :P)

Oh, you could do the Gurubashi Trolls versus Each other. You know, when they first tried to summon hakkar and failed and they all split up and that stuff... At'al Ai trolls..... yeah. That thing.

And it's kind of hard to find reference for it but way back before the Sundering the Trolls defeated the Aqir (Split into Nerubian and Silithid). Reference:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Aqir

So yeah. But for wars with any real reference, you've pretty much got it covered.

Oh, and there's also the time when Alextrasza was helped to escape from the Demon Soul and freed her brood with Ronin's (And Everyone else's, whatever) help. That's kinda cool.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Day_of_the_Dragon
http://www.wowwiki.com/Alexstrasza

So yeah :P
04-29-2008, 06:27 PM#10
Furion
You could also try what I'm doing for my map, and figure out what Arthas is up to now that he and the Lich King are one. The Scourge is still really powerful these days.
04-29-2008, 11:40 PM#11
TheSecretArts
I'll think about, I'm trying to stay to things that have definate lore and people who participated. Though I'll keep it in mind.
04-30-2008, 09:23 AM#12
Furion
Oh no, I was just trying to help out, I don't have a particular interest in seeing that one done.
04-30-2008, 11:35 PM#13
Nuclear Arbitor
wait till wrath of the lich king to get a butchered, mmo version of that.
04-30-2008, 11:38 PM#14
TheSecretArts
then I can make a map about it :P
05-01-2008, 05:49 AM#15
Furion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuclear Arbitor
wait till wrath of the lich king to get a butchered, mmo version of that.

Yeah. As much as I understand needing to adapt a game to make it good for mmo, there is no need to have something as ridiculous as the top characters in the game killable by PCs. First Illidan, now Arthas I bet. Completely ridiculous. And for the record, Wrath of the Lich King takes place in Northrend, so they probably have him just sitting up there holed up in his citadel. Arthas is way more ambitious than that, I like the way I have him portrayed much better. And I would never let a player control a main character like Arthas or Sylvanas or Illidan.