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05-30-2008, 07:58 PM#1
Pyritie
I'll just repost what I put at dA.
Soooo... this is Scorch. She's smart, but she also gets frustrated easily and gets angry quickly. Her knowledge of the artifact that Pyritie found borders on obsessive.

Her best "friend" is Pirsir, although Scorch tends to boss her around a lot.

When things don't go the way she wants, she gets angsty.
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Oooookay I think I'm about done with this piece. I've been working on it since January and I really just don't want to work on it any more.

It was a great learning experience though. It shows just how much I freaking hate scales and stormy clouds. :D

Anyways.

I've been working on this since late-January, and I worked on it about 5 hours a week, soo... you do the math. (Well, I wasn't working all that time, but still...)


WIPs (There's 27 of them!) in my scraps.
Fire stock
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05-31-2008, 01:38 AM#2
Gorman
its pretty nice, but i think it could hav been better, the left leg is the wrong angle i think, and sum of the shaows are off. Im not sure how scorch is supposed to look, but the head is pretty round, shouldnt it be pointy?

Also the scales are completley flat, they arent a texture. you should hav take a bit of extra time to make the stick out a little bit, like shadowign them better, and on the edges of the dragon they would stick out slightly, making it a bit lumpy lookin. Also i think u pronounced the highlights on them too much, they look like they are super glossy.

Its great quality man, its just that it could be improved alot i think

EDIT: in ur dp why is the dragon dressed like a... red dog?
05-31-2008, 03:43 AM#3
varsaigen
dude, why the criticism? That has already been explained in his art thread.
1. The head looks round because of the angle.
2. The leg looks off because it isb't at the same angle as the other.
3. The shadows are sharp because of the flame in her hands.
4. The scales are wierd. It is always hard to make perfect scales. But this would look better with flat scales instead of bumpy ones.

5. His avatar is him dressed up in werewulve's fur. :P Werewulve did the same to his skin. I guess the phraze works: "They got under eachother's skin" XD
05-31-2008, 05:34 AM#4
Gorman
1. the head souldnt be that round, the head is supposed to be pointy, and u should be able to tell from any angle. It should hav been shadowed to reflect that its pointy.
2. The leg still looks wrong, because its not turned enough for that angle.
3. I said the shadows are off, not they are too sharp. They are epsecialy wrong on Scorchs left wing.
4. Scales still shouldnt have been highlighted so much, especialy not with yellow, why would red scales reflect yellow light as being white???

5. ok...
05-31-2008, 08:48 AM#5
antihero
You need to concentrate on the overall composition of the piece. You've positioned her in a dark, stormy environment; yet she is lit brightly.
You've painted individual scales when you should have been backing up and evaluating the values for the whole painting.

If the fire is the only light source, than you need much harsher shadows. The highlights should reflect the color of the lightsource; the clothes are the biggest offenders of this.

Sorry but I actually like early versions of the picture without the background and the overly detailed body.
05-31-2008, 09:36 AM#6
TDR
dude, what's with this "preview" shit? Please upload the pic here, don't link to deviantart. Seriously, this is called "Gallery" not "Hey look at my deviantart account".
05-31-2008, 11:49 AM#7
Gorman
Pyrite, i like this pic better, its all good in this pic.
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05-31-2008, 04:31 PM#8
Rising_Dusk
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Originally Posted by varsaigan
5. His avatar is him dressed up in werewulve's fur. :P Werewulve did the same to his skin. I guess the phraze works: "They got under eachother's skin" XD
That is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever read in a post on this site in my entire time being here.

By the way, the joints on that thing are so wrong I cannot even begin to describe. Seriously, it has Barney joints, which is to say it doesn't have actual joints at all, just bends. The dang thing has no life either, no awesome pose, no awesome attributes, no awesome look, no awesomeness at all. It's about as generic as can possibly be made, and the errors in it stand out so massively as a result. (Why in the world is the back leg longer than the front? It should be the other way around because of positioning) Speaking of which, nothing can fly in the position that 'dragon' is in, and unless you make up something about it floating and not having to flap its wings, it has errors there too.

The background is rather boring and doesn't look good with the picture too, the dragon itself doesn't even fit into the background. It almost looks like you just copied and pasted your dragon into a separate backdrop rather than making them together. (Did you? I seriously can't tell)

I suppose now I should include the obligatory "I'm not trying to be mean, just telling you exactly what I think."
06-01-2008, 01:50 AM#9
Sunwarrior25
Dude! It's called Ropes and Pulleys! Jeez!

On Topic: Well. I kinda like it. But I do agree that the scales could use some work. Especially on the neck. It looks like she's wearing paste-on scales on top of the orange ones... The eyes could also use some tlc, but I don't know what to say specifically about that.

Either way... Good work!
06-01-2008, 03:34 AM#10
darkwulfv
I really dislike the wings, mainly the one on the right (the long one). It looks massive compared to the other one, as well as being wrinkled (it looks like cloth). I'm no expert on dragon anatomy or anything, but the wing looks like an arm... but "she" (it's a girl?) already has those, so it looks kind of weird.. The shadow on the left wing looks off, and the legs look like they're made of K'nex covered in paper mache. And the scales look kind of like fur.

And please, put the actual picture here. I was judging based off of that "PREVIEW" image, until I actually decided to go in and look, and realize the actual image is about 7 times larger.
06-02-2008, 11:50 AM#11
Pyritie
Right, apparently wc3c doesn't like to send me emails when people post a reply, so I kinda missed this >.=.>

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorman
its pretty nice, but i think it could hav been better, the left leg is the wrong angle i think, and sum of the shaows are off. Im not sure how scorch is supposed to look, but the head is pretty round, shouldnt it be pointy?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorman
1. the head souldnt be that round, the head is supposed to be pointy, and u should be able to tell from any angle. It should hav been shadowed to reflect that its pointy.
Looking back on it, yes, I can see what you mean but by the time I realized that, I had already worked on it too much to want to start again.

Quote:
Also the scales are completley flat, they arent a texture. you should hav take a bit of extra time to make the stick out a little bit, like shadowign them better, and on the edges of the dragon they would stick out slightly, making it a bit lumpy lookin. Also i think u pronounced the highlights on them too much, they look like they are super glossy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorman
4. Scales still shouldnt have been highlighted so much, especialy not with yellow, why would red scales reflect yellow light as being white???
Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero
You've painted individual scales when you should have been backing up and evaluating the values for the whole painting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunwarrior25
On Topic: Well. I kinda like it. But I do agree that the scales could use some work. Especially on the neck. It looks like she's wearing paste-on scales on top of the orange ones...
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Originally Posted by darkwulfv
And the scales look kind of like fur.
It was pretty much my first time doing scales... I don't want to go back and fix the scales on this picture, but next time (yeah sure... next time... what next time...) I'll definitely work on them more like you suggested. Also I should've googled some pictures of lizard heads so I could see how they were placed and such. :/

Quote:
Originally Posted by antihero
You need to concentrate on the overall composition of the piece. You've positioned her in a dark, stormy environment; yet she is lit brightly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
The background is rather boring and doesn't look good with the picture too, the dragon itself doesn't even fit into the background. It almost looks like you just copied and pasted your dragon into a separate backdrop rather than making them together.
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(Did you? I seriously can't tell)
No. But I didn't really have a good idea of a background until after the lighting was done... bad mistake D:

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Originally Posted by antihero
If the fire is the only light source, than you need much harsher shadows. The highlights should reflect the color of the lightsource; the clothes are the biggest offenders of this.
Uhh... there was supposed to be a sun or something coming from the top-right... but it kinda got lost...

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Originally Posted by TDR
dude, what's with this "preview" shit? Please upload the pic here, don't link to deviantart. Seriously, this is called "Gallery" not "Hey look at my deviantart account".
I linked the picture to the first post. I tried uploading it on here twice, but both times wc3c gave me errors or something...

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Originally Posted by Gorman
EDIT: in ur dp why is the dragon dressed like a... red dog?
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Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
That is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever read in a post on this site in my entire time being here.
It's a bandwagon on Furaffinity.

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Originally Posted by Gorman
the left leg is the wrong angle i think
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
(Why in the world is the back leg longer than the front? It should be the other way around because of positioning)
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Originally Posted by darkwulfv
and the legs look like they're made of K'nex covered in paper mache.
This is my really bad attempt of foreshortening/perspective that went wrong... D:

Another thing I have to work on >.=.>

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Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
I suppose now I should include the obligatory "I'm not trying to be mean, just telling you exactly what I think."
That's one of the reasons why I post stuff on here; you guys never hold back on telling me what's wrong with it.
06-02-2008, 12:37 PM#12
erwtenpeller
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorman
1. the head souldnt be that round, the head is supposed to be pointy, and u should be able to tell from any angle. It should hav been shadowed to reflect that its pointy.
Who are you to determain if his characters head should be round or pointy?
06-02-2008, 01:35 PM#13
Kurjuus
Dude, go back to drawing and learn how to construct things and set them more or less properly in perspective. Study anatomy of dragons if you're so obsessed with them, since you won't get anything really good looking if it wouldn't work in practical use, e.g. especially the wings of that dragon. They don't look anything like they could make that dragon fly and also the whole pose is just wrong as dusk has already said.
Of course, only consider this if you want to make something better than noobish attempts at amature work that only your friends appreciate.
06-02-2008, 02:29 PM#14
Gorman
Good to see you considered all the crit Pyrite =)

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Originally Posted by erwtenpeller
Who are you to determain if his characters head should be round or pointy?

I just looked at the ones in the back ground and thought "are they differnet epecies of dragon or wut?"
06-02-2008, 03:49 PM#15
Pyritie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurjuus
Dude, go back to drawing and learn how to construct things and set them more or less properly in perspective. Study anatomy of dragons if you're so obsessed with them, since you won't get anything really good looking if it wouldn't work in practical use, e.g. especially the wings of that dragon. They don't look anything like they could make that dragon fly and also the whole pose is just wrong as dusk has already said.
Of course, only consider this if you want to make something better than noobish attempts at amature work that only your friends appreciate.
Yes, what I'll be doing now is doing lots of smaller things with not as much detail, etc, so if I screw up I won't be as attached to it like I was with this one. >.=.>