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02-10-2009, 05:31 AM#1
mobofone
Well ok i am going to make one of 3 maps, and i do not know WHICH i should make *pain*

•An evolution map that has 4-6 types of races
•Campaign map, *would need ideas*
•Last but not least, Humans Vs Scourge map.


Pick which one u would want me to make, cause i am a little confused on which i should make.
02-10-2009, 05:36 AM#2
Shadow_killer
The almighty dices of the INTERNET said 1-6-4 so you must make a campaign!
02-10-2009, 05:52 AM#3
Cherry-Soap
I'm sure a bunch of us would like to help and all but you are making us choose from an Evolution Melee, a Campaign that you have no ideas for whatsoever, and an AoS about Humans vs Scourge!?

Well, I'd choose the campaign because you should make a Troll campaign and I shall provide this idea since I originally was going to make this campaign but I have school and school does not like me on the computer!


You are a troll chief within some troll clan. You realize you must unite the warring clans against the impending arrival of the Murloc and Elven Invasion. The Murlocs to the north and the elves to the east.

Your campaign can include you banding together clans, fighting murlocs, elves, and maybe even humans or nerubians!? :o

You can put a plot twist here and there, it's a basic idea after all.


~Cherry-Soap
02-11-2009, 12:58 AM#4
mobofone
Well, let me make it more clearer, when i said human vs scourge, i ment like it taking place in northren, for campaign anything thats within my knowledge of Gui and Jass. for the Evolution map, think of spiderwars, mixed with diffrent races, and more options without it having "who ever controlls 90% of the population" Things like that.
02-11-2009, 03:23 AM#5
darkwulfv
I don't want you to make any of them. Pick your own, don't depend on us to tell you what to pick.
02-11-2009, 04:51 AM#6
Kyrbi0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherry_Soap
Well, I'd choose the campaign because you should make a Troll campaign and I shall provide this idea since I originally was going to make this campaign but I have school and school does not like me on the computer!


You are a troll chief within some troll clan. You realize you must unite the warring clans against the impending arrival of the Murloc and Elven Invasion. The Murlocs to the north and the elves to the east.

Your campaign can include you banding together clans, fighting murlocs, elves, and maybe even humans or nerubians!? :o

You can put a plot twist here and there, it's a basic idea after all.


~Cherry-Soap
Lame. Elves and Murlocs? Almost like they're working in concert. But if you're interested, I may have something up your alley...

~~~

On Topic... Umm... See above. Give us more options, and/or don't make us decide your modding fate. Do what you find fun.
02-11-2009, 05:19 AM#7
Cherry-Soap
Lame?

The trolls were supposedly attacked by murlocs if I'm right(maybe) and the trolls do hate the elves and the elves hate them too. And what's that about something up my alley?

And just to be a follower, you really shouldn't have us deciding your fate or making your own decisions.
02-11-2009, 06:01 AM#8
mobofone
Darkwulfy i said, i am confused on which i should make, i have set 3 thigns down, which means they are my ideas, and im only relieing on you guys to help me out on 1 simple thing, which should i make? thats all nothing more.
02-11-2009, 06:20 AM#9
mobofone
Quote:
Kyrbi0 Lame. Elves and Murlocs? Almost like they're working in concert. But if you're interested, I may have something up your alley...

Yeah i would agree, elves and murlocs are not a good combo, murlocs and naga would, since they are related but they are not the same, same with undead and human related but not the same. Ne and Orc not the same but they still go well with each other lol.
02-11-2009, 06:28 AM#10
Pyrogasm
Make what you want to make and feel inspired by.
02-11-2009, 04:38 PM#11
Velmarshal
I haven't seen many evolution maps.
Campaigns are boring, and Human vs Undead has been seen waay too many times.
02-11-2009, 05:05 PM#12
The Dark One
When someone is confused about making a choice the best thing to do is analyze your options according to the following parameters:

1- The benefits and results: how impressive would the map be after your done and how many would play it, how much experience will you get from your work on the project (which is the most important thing when considering this parameter and that what makes the next parameter so important).

•An evolution map that has 4-6 types of races: every body loves to try new races and explore new unites and abilities but it gets boring after all abilities are explored and the map is played a dozen times, you’ll gain experience in creating and balancing unites and heroes with the addition to how much will you do of (Triggering abilities and race systems. Custom models, icons and textures. Terrain and environment).
•Campaign map: we all like campaigns as the name of the site indicates and thy don’t take long before you can see if thy are good or not but thy would be played once or twice (three or four times if it’s really good), you’ll gain experience in writing stories and designing quests with the addition to how much will you do of (Triggering abilities. Custom models, icons and textures. Terrain and environment).
• Humans Vs Scourge map: that is an (AoS) right? Thy are cool an can be played for hundreds of times and can get you really famous if you do them well but the competition on them is high with clans like DOTA and others around, you’ll gain experience from designing heroes and cool abilities and systems with the addition to how much will you do of (Triggering abilities. Custom models, icons and textures. Terrain and environment).

2- The requirements: how much planning have you given to each project, how capable you are of completing the project and how much of it is within your capabilities (asking for and relaying on the help of others can decrease the chances of completion for you project).

•An evolution map that has 4-6 types of races: thy require great imagination, lots of ideas and a good sense in melee balance, you’ll need knowledge in object manager and some triggering knowledge for the abilities and race system and anything more is better.
•Campaign map: you’ll need a really good story, good experience in cinematic, a general knowledge in every thing else and some modelling or texturing would do you good.
• Humans Vs Scourge map: imagination, imagination and more imagination, you’ll need extensive knowledge with triggering (Jass is preferred), balancing abilities in proportion with the number of heroes in the game and some terraining and environment.

3- The friend and enemy of all, TIME: some projects require a lot of time while others require a continuous work as breaking could slowly decrease your interest in completing the project and eventually render it to the gigantic mountain of unfinished and never going to be finished projects.

•An evolution map that has 4-6 types of races: takes a lot of time but can withstand a lot of breaking (in fact it gets better the more time you break from it as more ideas come to mind).
•Campaign map: you have to strike this one while it’s still hot as it withstands little breaking but takes less time for it’s linear nature (even with branching side quests and possible multi endings it still takes less time mostly for its reliance on a single person for most of the work).
• Humans Vs Scourge map: I don’t know much about the time dependency of this genre but I expect it to take more planning and balancing time then actual designing (may depend mostly on spell design speed).

This is mostly my opinion and you may disagree as much as you like, but I think that if you analyze your options and weigh the parameters you’ll definitely reach a good decision and this method can be used to make any decision in life.

Damn! I didn’t notice how long that became.
02-11-2009, 08:33 PM#13
Kyrbi0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherry-Soap
Lame?

The trolls were supposedly attacked by murlocs if I'm right(maybe) and the trolls do hate the elves and the elves hate them too.
I'm sorry, I felt like being unnecessarily terse for some reason. :/

It's not that it's a lame idea, necessarily. It just seems like an overly-simplistic idea for a campaign. "enemies are attacking you; gather teh tribes and fighte back!". And yes, Elves hate Trolls; but IIRC, that's mainly between Forest Trolls and High Elves (going back to their years of war, since the HE built their cities on the FT sacred ruins and then killed them off).

Murlocs/Naga = is generally a good idea. But both is a little "eh".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherry-Soap
And what's that about something up my alley?
http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=100616

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDO
An evolution map that has 4-6 types of races: takes a lot of time but can withstand a lot of breaking (in fact it gets better the more time you break from it as more ideas come to mind).
Exactly!

The Dark One knows what he's talking about.

~~~

Anyway, TC, other than the generic "do what you want to do", I can kinda understand where you're coming from. That you "want to" and feel inspired to make something, and that you'd be ok with any of the options you presented; however, you honestly can't decide, and since you don't really care one way or the other, you ask in public. Eh?

That being said, I say "custom race". However, don't go so far as to make 4-6 races right off the bat (pot calling the kettle black...). Just say you'll create 1 custom race, and focus everything you can on making it the best.
A custom campaign for that race gives it some purpose, too.
02-11-2009, 11:04 PM#14
Bobo_The_Kodo
I picked them all, to be awesome
02-12-2009, 12:37 AM#15
The Dark One
And how exactly does that make you awesome ?

If you decide on making custom races which I would consider to be wise, especially if coupled with some simple story campaign to explain the race’s history, I’d give you a hand since I am working on my own custom race and planning to create a campaign (about 9 chapters) for it. Give it a chick and tell me your ideas about it since it seams that I was relatively ignored when I posted them on the site.