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[Request] Naga Hall Tiers 2 and 3

02-19-2009, 05:04 PM#1
Michael Peppers
1. I need some help with the models in my map, now the biggest model bug I have is the Naga hall because, you know, it has only 1 tier, so I'd want to ask for models for the other 2 tiers, they don't need to be complicated, you can do simple model edits (in-game textures and small file-size are preferred, but are not required) of the hall with some simple but decent upgrade animation (icons are not required either, but if someone wants to work on that, that's even better). (Found: Thanks to Pheonix IV for the model and to moyack for finding it)

2. Another request: can someone do a model of a Nerubian Siege Unit? (a catapult or anything else you may think of)
As on the first request, in-game textures and small file-size are preferred, and icons are really appreciated too (but not needed).
Only a restriction to this request: no acid-spitting spiders, because I'm using them as siege units in Woodsgang.

3. An animating request: my "little" Giant Vulture is in need of animations (the model is the normal WC3 Vulture), I'd really need an attack animation that goes good with biting and launching an air-earth boulder (that's not a boulder, but I won't tell what it is :P) from its mouth.

+ Rep to the model creators, of course, and credits in my map.

Edit:
Added a Nerubian screen (as a style reference) with comments for your amusement. Enjoy!

New edit: Screens removed, New thread
02-19-2009, 07:05 PM#2
Kyrbi0
Talk to moyack. I'm not sure it's available, but he might have something for you.
02-19-2009, 09:34 PM#3
Michael Peppers
Another request posted, see thread.
(Thanks to Kyrbi0 for being the first one commenting)
02-19-2009, 09:45 PM#4
Kyrbi0
Wait, where to look? The "all possible races pack" thread, or the Request forum (doesn't seem to be in the latter).

Yeah, they are. :<
02-19-2009, 09:52 PM#5
Michael Peppers
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Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
Wait, where to look?

Gosh, screens! Forgot to make screens!
The ones in the thread are quite old, I have to make some new screens, I'll make them and post here and there in a few seconds.

Another request, see thread
First request done

Last Thing: Hello? Is there anybody out there?
C'mon, it's easy to write a post like "uhm, I think I can do something for this..." etc.
Or simply no-one is really interested?
02-21-2009, 02:06 AM#6
Kyrbi0
Oh, I didn't even notice the new requests...

1: Dang, I was going to suggest an acid-spitting Nerubian. Well, you'll have to make up your mind and be more decisive if you want any help, unfortunately. Just try and think of what kind of "catapult" the Nerubians would make (thinking of all the different options). Orcs throw (fiery) rocks, Undead toss (diseased) corpses, Humans launch exploding cannonballs (eh?), and Night Elves shoot giant (piercing) ballista bolts.

So... Nerubians could either launch (catapult), shoot (ballista), or some other third thing (swing; trebuchet??). I think it would be neat to see a metallic Nerubian-looking thing on wheels, but the arms/legs act as a cradle for the projectile and ... whatever. Something. Lost my train of thought. :P

2: This could probably be done really simply with an AnimTransfer (oinkerwinkles tool) from, like, any big aerial unit (probably Frost Wyrm or ___ Dragon). If you don't want to try it, I'll see if I can find time to see if it'll even work like that... I dunno. You could ask RDZ (or better yet, make a thread for it in the "Artist Discussions + Queries" topic.
02-21-2009, 02:16 AM#7
Michael Peppers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
So... Nerubians could either launch (catapult), shoot (ballista), or some other third thing (swing; trebuchet??). I think it would be neat to see a metallic Nerubian-looking thing on wheels, but the arms/legs act as a cradle for the projectile and ... whatever. Something. Lost my train of thought. :P

Well, I thinked about leaving the maximum modeling freedom to the one interested in the siege unit, but it's time to say something more about it.

I suggest something that launchs an icy boulder/huge icicle.

Something like a ballista that shoots icicles? (something metallic may fit well) On the other hand, I use the ballista for the Blood Elves so... I'd like a ballista that is not a ballista (I don't know if this sentence really has a meaning XD)

Tomorrow I may give a try for the Vulture but I don't think I can come with any good thing...

Thanks to Pheonix IV and moyack for the first request, and thanks also for the good idea of Kyrbi0, the advisor! XD
02-21-2009, 02:24 AM#8
Kyrbi0
Woah woah, when did you get Phoenix-IV's town hall? I've been trying to get that for weeks on MSN from moyack...

Glad to be of help, though. Yes, an icicle-ballista would be cool. However, a tad similar to the existing ballista. Perhaps there is a way to do both?

*Maybe a nerubian mage, locked and mounted into a mechanical chassis; this guy is a like a Cryomancer, who can create giant pillars of ice (which would be the attack). So instead of launching icicles, he creates icicles. Underneath you. Impaling you and buildings.

Meh, an idea. :P

**Or, going with the snowball/iceball idea, Nerubians had a lot to do with mechs and stuff. So maybe a big snow-encrusted "battle golem", specially-outfitted to look spiderlike (for both aesthetics and for stability/support), with, like, 6 spider legs and a cantilevered throwing arms; this guy actually tosses the big icy-rocks.
02-21-2009, 02:33 AM#9
Michael Peppers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
Woah woah, when did you get Phoenix-IV's town hall? I've been trying to get that for weeks on MSN from moyack...

Remember, double disturbing people always works XD
Ah, and if you want it, I guess I can send it to you with a PM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
Glad to be of help, though. Yes, an icicle-ballista would be cool. However, a tad similar to the existing ballista. Perhaps there is a way to do both?

Everytime I try to think of an original ballista, this happens in my brain:

---- ERROR! SYSTEM OVERFLOW! ----

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
*Maybe a nerubian mage, locked and mounted into a mechanical chassis; this guy is a like a Cryomancer, who can create giant pillars of ice (which would be the attack). So instead of launching icicles, he creates icicles. Underneath you. Impaling you and buildings.

Meh, an idea. :P

We both know that it won't work, and it seems to me that in this case the pillar MUST fall from the ceiling, but since most of the maps are on the surface...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrbi0
**Or, going with the snowball/iceball idea, Nerubians had a lot to do with mechs and stuff. So maybe a big snow-encrusted "battle golem", specially-outfitted to look spiderlike (for both aesthetics and for stability/support), with, like, 6 spider legs and a cantilevered throwing arms; this guy actually tosses the big icy-rocks.

Guess what, I thinked something similar for the iceball, the only difference is that in my idea it was a golem snowman. (No, I'm not joking!)
02-21-2009, 02:43 AM#10
Kyrbi0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Peppers
Ah, and if you want it, I guess I can send it to you with a PM.
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't complain. I mean, I asked moyack for it, then lost interest and got sidetracked and stuff.

And don't worry about the PM; I've already PMed moyack again and hopefully will get it over MSN (much faster).

Quote:
Originally Posted by MP
We both know that it won't work, and it seems to me that in this case the pillar MUST fall from the ceiling, but since most of the maps are on the surface...
Excuse me? I don't "know" it won't work; in fact, I thought it was a quite neat idea. Maybe not "THE ANSWER", but meh.
02-21-2009, 02:50 AM#11
Michael Peppers
Maybe I got the answer (read this): a mage in a chassis (as you said), but with 6 mechanical legs and a barrel that shoots icicles. Practically, a light nerubian tank. What do you think?
02-21-2009, 02:55 AM#12
Kyrbi0
That's an idea (and not necessarily a bad one), but no, that's not what I meant.

I meant a Cryomancer. However, to make him "mechanical", I figured the cruel Nerubians would effectively weld his legs onto a metal chassis (i.e. the bottom half of the Catapult, or whatever; wheeled and metallic). Then his "siege attack" would be him conjuring pillars of ice (read: icicles) from the ground, impaling enemy units and buildings (but especially buildings). Would have long-range (i.e. catapult) capabilities.
02-21-2009, 03:04 AM#13
Michael Peppers
Sorry, I don't know how "(like these you said)" got in that post, since I wanted to write "(like that of a tank)" . I mean I understood your idea, and it can be a good choice for the modeller (if someone wants to do a model of a siege unit, of course)

So, to sum it all up, 6 choices for a to-find modeller:

1. An original ballista that shoots icicles
2. The Cryomancer (mech stuff) (see the above posts)
3. The spider tank (mech stuff) (see above)
4. Nerubian Golem/mech that throws iceballs (idem = latin for "the same" (as above, I mean))
5. Golem snowman that throws snowballs (idem)
6. Anything you want that fits this request: a Nerubian siege unit
02-21-2009, 03:10 AM#14
Kyrbi0
Good luck, man. :P

Although for posterity, I think a "spider-golem" of some kind would be an awexome model, just to have. :P
02-21-2009, 04:29 AM#15
RenegadeMushroom
Well, I have a proposal for a Nerubian seige unit. It was one of my first ideas for a Nerubian Seige unit for my custom race:
A battering ram that walks on 6 legs, perhaps shaped like a Nerubian. Obviously average seige unit size.