Channel

03-14-2009, 01:35 PM	#1
Fledermaus	Channel shouldn't be able to leave a buff right?..

03-14-2009, 08:41 PM	#2
Av3n	Nope unfortunately from my experience. -Av3n

03-15-2009, 12:35 AM

Fledermaus

Ok there's a serious weird with Engineering Upgrade + Channel..

Say you morph a spell based off Entangling Roots into a Channel, the Channel turns into Entangling roots (as in, will leave a buff and stun/damage the target).

Upon further testing I've discovered that the spell being morphed into Channel will take on the stats of the channel ability. e.g. Bloodlust has 3 data fields: Attack Speed Increase (DataA#), Move Speed Increase (DataB#) and Scaling Factor (DataC#). The Channeled Bloodlust will take these fields into account for its increases, i.e. Follow Through Time (DataA#) will determine the attack speed, Targeting Type (DataB#) will determine the move speed and Options (DataC#) will determine the scaling size. The other fields in the Channeled Bloodlust will determine it's other effects (like what buff it applies, duration, and the other:targets allowed, cooldown, mana cost (duh).
Sadly, you can't change the Order ID and it wont stack with a non Channeled ability. I guess this is because Base Order ID is being used for DataF# so it reverts to the Order String for it's Order ID (which you still can't change =/).

So really, this is just an annoying bug rather than anything useful. Thought I'd post it anyway.

P.S. Sorry if this has already been reported, I couldn't find anything on it.

03-15-2009, 01:01 AM

Fledermaus

Well that would explain it.

EDIT:

Quote:

ANeg (Engineering Upgrade): The engineering upgrade finally solves the problem of not levelable trigger added hero skills. It allows to add hero skills with triggers and to still have them in the levelup menu. Therefore the hero needs to have dummy hero skills that can then be replaced by the actual skills. The placeholder skills need to have the same amount of levels and level skip requirements that's why you will probably need one for ultimates and one for normal hero skills. I usually base my placeholder skills off of Arpb (Replenish) but the base skill really shouldn't matter. The placeholder with 3 levels and 2 levels skip can simply be given to the hero several times. Then the placeholder skills must be disabled for all players at map initialization, so they don't show up in the levelup menu at first. Then you will just need an adder ability based off of engineering upgrade for each skill that you might want to have on the hero. The upgrade will replace the skills in the order of their ability upgrade field when it's added, and replace them backwards when it's removed. So if you want to abuse the engineering upgrade but don't want the passive upgrade icon on the unit you can simply have an engineering upgrade with the abilities B, A in the upgrade field and then when you add and remove it on a unit that has A it will then have B. That's because adding it will do nothing as B is not there, but removing it will replace A with B. As soon as a hero ability has been added that way it will be learnable in the levelup menu. Note that replacing skills only works well for unlearned hero skills. Replacing learned skills or normal unit skills will not actually replace them, it will just update the fields like range, area of effect, duration, icon, targets allowed, and so on, but will not change the hardcoded part of the ability. For example changing an aura to the heal ability will only change the icon, tooltips, range and probably some other fields, but it will still be an aura. If the ability that is being replaced is disabled at the time the results become even weirder and you can never know what you will get. Also the engineering upgrade only works for heroes, adding it to normal units will crash the game for some reason. Another weird bug with it is, that you have to specify all four upgraded abilities, otherwise it might not work. If you only want to upgrade one ability, you can simply specify ability ids that the unit will never have for the rest. Also dynamic tooltips like <dataA5> are flawed above level 3. Also the default buff shouldn't be replaced, but it doesn't show up anyway, so that's not really an issue.

Shows that I can read huh?