Golden Sun Psyenergy - Ragnarok

I'm currently working on a new RPG map that has just been asking to be made for years, I'm currently in the process of a Golden Sun map.

Problem is that some of the Psyenergy effects are a little tough to duplicate in Wc3 (At least for me XD) and I need either some models, or editted models I can use for some of the skills. Or suggestions of what existing models/effects I can use.

At the moment the Psyenergy skills I'm having trouble with getting a decent effect are listed below.

I also have a video of all the Psyenergy in Golden Sun 1 & 2, the list below also shows what part of the video they are in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tasvj0mPoP0 *Part 1*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLfxSD_MpSI *Part 2*

• Ragnarok - Part 1 (0:01)
• Spire / Clay Spire / Stone Spire - Part 2 (0:27)
• Fire / Fireball / Inferno - Part 1 (2:27)
• Douse / Drench / Deluge - Part 1 (4:18)
• Froth / Froth Sphere / Froth Spiral - Part 2 (0:56)

Note I am only going to use Psyenergy from the 1st Golden Sun game, there is a ridiculous amount of Psyenergy in Golden Sun: The Lost Age, and most of the new ones would be even more difficult to pull off.


So if anyone has any suggestions of what effects / models I can use for these skills I would appreciate it and probably give credit if I use the suggestion.

I don't think this is a model editing query. I think you're wanting Artist's Discussion and Queries.

So moved.

lol thanks I couldn't decide what forum to put it in lol.

So you're making Ragnarok online into wc3? Why would you ever do that? I think it's a waste of time and any possible skill you might have acquired over the time.

No I'm not making a Ragnarok Online map.... I'm making a Golden Sun map, Ragnarok is just the name of a skill in the game. I'll change the name of the thread to stop some confusion.

Jesus christ. If you succeed in making this map (or give a link to where it can be found), i will love you. Golden Sun was my all-time favorite RPG ever.

If someone could make Ragnarok that'd be bitching. However, I think somewhere around here there's already a sword model that is used as a SFX that could probably be used for Ragnarok.

You know, a lot of those would really only reqiure careful SFX manipulation through JASS. For example, the fire and frost spells can use in-game SFX effectively. Froth (which is bubbles if I remember right) could probably get away with using an in-game. As for the Spire abilities... Well, you could combine the earthquake SFX (ground shattering) with some units with a rock spire doodad as their model and mess with them.

What fail that would be.

Lol it's pretty much my all time favorite too, I've always wanted to make a map of it, or at least someone do it. I've just never thought I could manage to pull it off till now, it's coming along ok so far, just I'm really hung up on creating the skills right now.

Also quick question, I'm using spellbooks and such to contain the spells for each class. Each spellbook has Tier 1-3 Psyenergy skills.

Ex. Tier 1 = Quake, Cure, Spire, ect.
Tier 2 = Earthquake, Cure Well, Clay Spire, ect.

And so on.

Problem I'm having is that I tried using the same spell just diff tooltip and such in the next tier spell book, but when I use say Earthquake, the hero casts Quake. There another way to fix this other than using different spells for each, because I may have a bit of trouble considering how many Psyenergy skills there are.

You'd have to use a whole lot of different abilities...

An alternate could be using channel (modified as needed and with different order ids) and then triggering the spell to be cast by dummy units. I would recommend this route.

In the past I've had lots of trouble with channel working properly lol, dunno what I've been doing wrong XD

Why, what doesn't work? I've never had problems with it, and it's your best bet.

Just wanted to let you know that you owe me 20 bucks for making me go out and buy both the damn golden suns again. xD

Lol at least you could find em, I only have the original, I found our Lost Age game but it apparently got chewed up. And both are kinda rare to find around here... Had to get a damn emulator to play the 2nd one again.

Ragnarok could be done using a huge dummy (like scaling to 10 plus align the size of missiles) having a glowing sword as missile - just make it shoot the sword and apply some epic explosion effects like that neutralexplosion