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06-09-2009, 09:33 AM#1
Flame_Phoenix
Hi guys, I don't know if this is the right place to post this thread, but since I saw it in a spell (coding) I believe it kinda makes sense to put it here.

So, basically Vexorian said this:
Quote:
This has entered the "one day, one spell" program. Which means that 24 hours after this post, this spell will either have to be approved or graveyarded,
To be honest I think that this is great. It will clean the submission section from a lot of spells.
I am also happy that my spell shield spell was finally approved.
However I am also scared, I don't know the standards to choose which spells enter the program. I also have other submissions waiting for approval, and I don't want to see them graved, so I would like to know more information about this program, so I can make a plan to manage my time and the submissions waiting approval or repproval.

So, basically, if anyone has any information about this, I would really love to listen more about it.
Thx in advance.
06-09-2009, 09:43 AM#2
akolyt0r
Its not a problem at all, if one of your spells gets graved..
You can continue working on it, maybe with the help of the people around here (Triggers & Scripts forum) and resubmit it after you think they are ready for approval once again.
06-09-2009, 10:19 AM#3
Flame_Phoenix
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Its not a problem at all, if one of your spells gets graved..
You can continue working on it, maybe with the help of the people around here (Triggers & Scripts forum) and resubmit it after you think they are ready for approval once again.
it is a problem for me my friend. Every time one of my spells gets graved I feel like I fail ... and I don't like failing xD
Also, experience tells me that posting my spells here first is a good idea. I usually do such things now because I know the submissions section is overwhelmed. However I also see that some times I don't get much help with my spells here ... which is why is submit them - because I believe that if people don't make posts, than it's because the spell is acceptable. If however the spell gets graved, then I feel kinda lost ...

But you are right as usual xD
06-09-2009, 03:13 PM#4
Vexorian
When we need a new entry for the program, the oldest spell/system thread in the "submit a resource" forum will get picked.
06-09-2009, 03:46 PM#5
Rising_Dusk
This is both a blessing and a curse. I see a lot of good resources being graveyarded because no one can review it and a lot of resources that are not good enough being approved because the reviewers don't really care. It'll be interesting, we'll see.
06-09-2009, 04:44 PM#6
cohadar
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Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
This is both a blessing and a curse. I see a lot of good resources being graveyarded because no one can review it
Need more moderators?
(No I don't want to be one)
06-09-2009, 05:13 PM#7
Rising_Dusk
We have plenty of moderators, it's just an inevitable fact that they all have more important things to be doing with their lives than reviewing resources.
06-09-2009, 05:23 PM#8
moyack
Actually there's too many admins for a so inactive site.
06-09-2009, 05:26 PM#9
Rising_Dusk
What relevance does that have to anything being discussed in this topic?
06-09-2009, 06:25 PM#10
Flame_Phoenix
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a lot of resources that are not good enough being approved because the reviewers don't really care. It'll be interesting, we'll see.
I hope you are not talking about my LS spell that just got approved...
On the other hand, I agree with some people, I don't know about the number of mods, but I agree that the resources section or other coding sections could be more "alive" if you know what I mean.

If you need mods?
Well, for some reason I believe Litany would be a good mod (not good for me because we hate each other... but ignoring that). Besides Litany I think that everyone else that's good in code is already a mod ... and I don't know enough people to point them so I don't think I can help much.

Anyway, Thx to Vexorian for answering my question =D
06-09-2009, 06:28 PM#11
moyack
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Originally Posted by Rising_Dusk
What relevance does that have to anything being discussed in this topic?
Too much relevance actually. what this "program" means is that you decided to make a mediocre evaluation of the resources in order to see a forum empty.

What are your arguments? You have a life and no enough time to review, but you don't need more moderators. And what has been done in order to keep a forum empty?? breaking the rules (remember Vexorian autoapproving his resources when there's a rule made specifically against that, with NO exceptions)

I suggest something easier and with the same side effects: Graveyard all of them and block the submissions so you don't have to worry about that anymore. Isn't it better?

What I mean (in case you haven't noticed) is that if you're going to do something, you must do it right and do take your time to do it properly, or don't do it and resign of your positions as I did. In other words: don't be mediocre and accept the consequences of your responsibilities.
06-09-2009, 08:08 PM#12
Vexorian
Quote:
Originally Posted by cohadar
Need more moderators?
(No I don't want to be one)
I just made the most obvious realization of my whole life, the problem was never lack of moderators but lack of organization and that's what this is about.

Worst case scenario something is gonna get graveyarded because the guy was not active enough, he can always submit again after he fixes it.

Some guys will get overdramatic about this, but I don't really care about their whining that much (pro tip: whining all the time makes people just ignore your whinings, even when it is actually important) . I care aboutwhat's best for the site, the rest can really fuck off. The main objective with wc3c resources is to approve good submissions and graveyard the bad ones. I see three pages in the "submit a resource" forum and I don't think that helps with the main objective. So far, I have approved two things under this method and they are good submissions so I don't see any problem with this yet. I never really cared and hope I'll never care about what people think of my administration ways or what they think about the site. A lot of time has been wasted by many people expecting me to care about those things, if you are one of them, do yourself a favor and stop wasting your time.

So far, the only two resources that were approved under the new method were good and deserved approval. That they weren't approved in three long months shows me that the old system was flawed, cause if the reason was as simple as lack of moderators, then we wouldn't have had any approval/graveyard of other spells/systems in 3 months. My theory is that they weren't approved because in the old system, moderators got distracted with the most recent submissions instead of noticing the old ones. That's the reason I am trying this new idea. If this doesn't work out, I'll just change strategy. It is really easy actually. Right now the only things that could get killed by this decision are a bunch of egos. If it actually works, I will code a queue system so that we always do this and keep priority on the older submissions.

PS: When I want someone to be a mod, I don't care about whether the mod position is necessary. Everybody whom I ever thought was worthy of getting a mod position has already received my offer. If my memory does not fail, they have all accepted the offer.