Object Editor makes map editor crash.

So seemingly at random, my map will crash when I try to open the "object editor."

If I reinstall Warcraft III, the map opens and runs fine for a bit until, randomly again, it crashes when I open the object editor (three days the second time).

The first time it happened I seen yellow text across the side of my map saying files were missing in some database. I didnt give it a second thought though. The second time (after a reinstall) I didn't see those because my main window was minimized.

Some background:

The map is one I made myself, and is not protected, nor ever was. I tried to open the object editor in other maps ranging from older back up versions of the same map to melee blizzard made maps (Booty Bay, and Harrow), all with the same result. Every map crashed in an identical way.

I do remember that both times the map editor crashed I was importing custom icons with the import editor. The icons were both made by me by converting a jpg to tga with photoshop, and were otherwise unrelated. Both times I imported the icons I did so with the trigger editor open, and the object editor closed.

Lastly, I did at one point use NewGen 1.5 because I was going to learn Jass, but then due to bugs with my virus scan, and adaware, I removed NewGen. The object editor functioned normally immediately after for about 24 hours and then crashed for the first time ever. Three days later, same crash, no newgen since I reinstalled though.

I have no clue what could be causing this. Any help is greatly appreciated. Reinstalling every 2-3 days will be a pain.

Thanks

mhh, seems like a really weird bug.... can you tell us your operating system? and by the way, there are a lot of threads mentioning how you get jngp to work with virus scanners, check them out, they've already worked for a lot of people ;)

I'm pretty sure NewGen was not the issue. I will look up those threads of which you write, and see if I can make it work. I use AVG anti-virus, and AdAware. I think I read somewhere that AVG was horrible with NewGen.

My operateing system is Vista Home Edition. And in months up to this point, I had no issues running world editor.

It seems that its corrupting a DLL file related to just that module. But I dont have to faintest idea why.

also, can you tell us which wc3 version you;re using? 1.23 or 1.23b or 1.24? or mayhaps 1.21? since your first crash happened after installing newgen(24hours later?) it might be because of newgen. look at your AVG blacklist/quarantine/whatever file, and see if any wc3-related files are in there. try switching AVG off COMPLETELY, then reinstall wc3, then activate AVG and whitelist all wc3 files. also try installing wc3 to a different directory.

Edit: however, your problem seems nasty. I'd like some more views from other people about it..

I have what ever the latest version required for Battle.net is.

There are no files in AVG quarantine. In Adware quarantine there is a "w3jdebug.exe" called a "Win32backdooragent" that I cant remove or restore with Adaware.

I reinstalled this morning and it worked okay for a bit, but not everything works okay until I open my abilities tab in the object editor, then I crash... same way as before just different "trigger" point.

Becoming increasingly irritating.

Change of plans. I can not locate this file that was quarantined. So instead Im just going to run a virus scan and attempt to completely remove the issue all together. I'm now convinced that NewGen is the problem, is there a tutorial on how to clear it off completely?

crashes for every map, or only for a special map (or maps) ?

Every map. Blizzard made or not. All crashes are identical, and all start at random and persist 100% of the time from then on until I reinstall. After a reinstall they restart at random and the cycle repeats.

First time it was 24 hours after NewGen was installed, and immediately after I virus scanned. Second time was 2 1/2 to 3 days later. Third time was 8 hours after that.

It was brought to my attention that my adaware is quarantining a file from NewGen that may be inside a critical file of my map editor.

I am convinced after now 4 days of dealing with this that NewGen is the issue, and would like to know how to clear it off completely. Simply clearing the directories of NewGen and warcraft III was not enough.

I want instructions on removal of the rest of this NewGen. Once I'm sure that is gone I will see if the problem ceases.

NewGen shouldn't install any files, really. Storm.dll, maybe, but aside from that everything should stay in the JNGP folder.

Well it did because now that I restored my system files to the day before I installed NewGen I can't open the map. It says that the "war3.mpq" cannot be opened.

So I'm under the impression that this all means I need to reinstall warcraft III to open my map. Which I will do right now...


Update: After a system restore, and a start-up recovery, and reinstalling warcraft III. I have a fully functional world editor again. I hope the issue is solved, be it something I was doing, NewGen, or an unrelated virus. Either way, thanks to both of you for helping as best you can. I will keep you posted the next couple days. =)

After the system restore the "w3jdebug.exe" that my adaware had quaratined, is now gone.

the problem is newgen as far as it was "attacked" by your anti virus tools. so it is the combination of the two that caused the problem, i think.
anyway, congratz to fixing, i hope ~

The problem is the anti-virus, If w3jdebug debugs war3.exe then it accesses warcraft's memory, if a program accesses memory, anti-virus programs marks it as a virus.

May I ask if you checked the Register Shell Extensions? If so, everytime you open a map by double clicking on it, JNGP will be used, JNGP will use those hacks, and your anti-virus will stop it's execution, resulting to a crash. It working after using system restore just means that the registry settings that JNGP overwritten was returned to the vanilla WE settings, causing the official WE to get used everytime you open a map. Just a guess though.

Anyways, it's good to hear that your problem is fixed :D

problem there is, that he completely removed jngp from his pc. i don't think any number of double-clicks would still cause it to start :P

I forgot that he removed it already...
But the registry settings are still there, maybe the registry settings are to blame Anyways his problem was fixed, I hope he doesn't get scared of trying JNGP again lol.

Ok so all was good. Until I imported 2 custom icons. Again, as with every other time, when I was importing icons my main world editor window was minimized. And, again, when I went to switch tabs from "buffs" to abilities, in the object editor, my map crashed. Identical to what was occurring before the system restore. Now, it crashes upon opening the object menu -- again.

Again, nothing was in either quarantine list, and as far as I know the NewGen is completely removed from my computer. So it must be something I'm doing in the import manager.

I know the icons are good because some of them have been used in other maps with no issues.

This is becoming a time consuming issue.. I spend more time reinstalling then I do on my map. =(

The new plan is to import all my icons before I reinstall, and avoid the abilities tab. Then reinstall and avoid importing.



EDIT: At Chobibo: I had a start up error in windows after my restore. Windows failed to load, and it went into a "start up recovery" and "fixed" itself. During which I remember seeing something about the registry, I'm not sure it didn't restore some of it.

Well, mayhpas is an issue with thewidnows common controls dll?