Hard To Find Ability Tooltips

I seem to be having a strange issue where I cant find the tooltips for any level 4-5 verions of spells in CampaignAbilityStrings.txt, the warcraft editor, or the jass. I found levels 1-3 in CampaignAbilityStrings.txt and managed to correct the tooltips just fine, but I cant locate the tooltips for spells 4-5. Is there another method/place for storing ability tooltips?

You should be able to alter the tooltips for any ability, to any level that the ability is set to go to, in the ability editor, without any fancy-pantsery. You need to adjust the ability to have more than 3 levels, which I assume you've already done. The tooltips are at the bottom of the list of fields you can change in an ability.

CampaignAbilityStrings.txt would have no bearing on this; editing the TXT files is how we had to do things in Reign of Chaos but not since The Frozen Throne's release. JASS is not related in any way to an ability's tooltip.

What abilities are you trying to change?

Though it is strange, making changes to CampaignAbilityStrings.txt has so far changed every single tooltip I wanted without failure. Ive changed around 70+ so far and all changes showed up in the game. The spells are all new custom spells made specifically for the game and none of them appear in the wc3editor for some reason.

Also, when you say editing txt files hasnt been done since RoC, is that due to the wc3editor being the main editing method for TfT or something else?

Correct. I'm flummoxed that you went to editing the TXT files before the ability editor, but hey, if it works it works!

Well, I originally tried to use the editor, but the skills weren't even in there for some reason.
So where should I look at this point for the tooltip information on the level 4 - 5 spells?

What skills weren't there?

PitzerMike once explained this to me as he was working on his Optimizer. I believe I remember that the TXT and SLK files can't go higher than 4-levels. Let's figure out why your ability editor isn't working the way you expect and get you on that track.

If I remember correctly, the Reign of Chaos editor can not edit abilities, only units. You need the expansion in order to get the full object editor functionality. If you already have the expansion, then the problem lies somewhere else.

I'm using the TFT editor to view/change the map.

Also, what you said about nothing higher than four levels seems to hold true, since nothing goes beyond level 3 in the TXT's and nothing goes beyond level 4 in the abilitydata.slk. Additionally, every single custom skill (around 70+) listed in the abilitydata.slk and CampaignAbilityStrings.txt can not be found in the wc3editor.

That seems exceptionally bizarre. Can you post a screenshot of your ability editor page? Also, have you tried wiping and reinstalling the game? Something might have been borked during your initial install...

I'm fairly sure its not the install since a previous version shows up normally and another person who looked at it came up with the same issue.

Note: The bottom custom abilities aren't the one's I'm trying to add tooltips for.



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Abilities of type item makes the editor autohide their tooltip info. Remove the item type and the tooltip data will show up

All of these abilities are hero abilities. Just in case I double checked under AbilityData.slk and found the skills there while they weren't in the ItemData.slk file.

I will assume you are tq, byoon.

I had a suspicion that the object data could be separated and merged together in the end by Wc3 - and that the Koreans were doing something like this. To test out this suspicion I ran wcstrings with the "a" parameter and checked out the abilities file I got (check the 7th and 11th posts on the second page of the wcstrings topic for information on the "a" and "x" parameters). There were a number of abilities with tooltips only for levels 4 and 5.

I figure what happened is... ability entries with levels greater than 3 were left in the .w3a file in their default format, but some necessary data apparently may be missing for those abilities that the World Editor checks for before displaying them (perhaps data being missing for the first three levels causes the WE to ignore them? Not going to bother checking further).

In any case, for now you can consider using wcstrings and seeing if that works for you (for abilities with levels greater than 3 - since you cannot see them in the WE). You definitely will not be able to use wcstrings for levels 1-3 on those abilities, though. Still something I am thinking about adding.

Excellent, after using wcstrings I was able to find the tooltips for level 4-5 were stored in this manner and I'll now be able to finish up fixing the tooltips.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions for resolving this issue.

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