Interesting?

What would be interesting in a Survival map? What would you like to see in a map where every player has it's own arena and creeps spawn from 3 different ways heading to hero where they fight. What skills should these units have? How should they spawn, please express your opinion so i could judge.

From personal experience I can say a few things.

1) Have a good range of threats both AOE and single target. Try not too have too much single target damage/debuffs, it makes games significantly easier as the player count increases.

2) Have encounters that cant be overwhelmed by blind nuke spamming. Make monsters that heal each other and stuff.

3) This one is kinda iffy, but you could create a so called priority system where certain monsters are significantly more dangerous and need to be focus fired first.

Kino this was my initial idea, i was planning to give a random monster charge, to make some of them explode on dead(you don't know which), to make some fast and instant sacrifice, some small big hp big damage, some fast weak hp&damage, some normal ones you will encounter most, as for abilities i would not give anyone for instance debuffs as they would stay for the entire fight, instead i will use abilities that empower other creeps, auras, heals, holyfires etc, dispell. Anything else i missed and could be added?

P.S: The range stuff is already done.

Its all up to you my friend.

Thats all I can do.

Thank you :P Very much.

To Kinorhynkar's 3rd suggestion: The most easy way to achieve something like that would be to give certain units an aura. For example (from a project of mine) necromancers increase nearby undeads life regeneration, demons increase nearby units attack damage and Liches would have chance to resurrect fallen allies immediately.

Although you didn't specifically ask for it, one thing I really want to see in a survival map would be a tanky class that would really have to use abilities (stances, shields, taunts etc) to be tanky. I hate those pure hitpoint/armor tanks.

Yes, i like your tank idea very much, i think i will realise it. Thank you.

You might want to differentiate the ones that explode on death/are fast/have abilities/etc from the others, rather than leaving that unknown. That way the player can develop strategies over time to deal with the different sorts of enemies in different ways, rather than hoping that the monster meleeing them wont explode for huge damage when it dies. Instead, they can figure out how to keep that monster out of melee while still dealing with other dangerous enemies at the same time.

one way to do that would be to give them some sort of symbol over the monster's head. like in DoWII

Hidden information:

Well, honestly i like the way you both think so much, thank you once again, any more ideas?

something else from DoWII/CoH is heavy ranged units that have to set up to fire and can only do so in a certain area, like 120 degrees or what ever. might be hard to make field of fire but the root would be pretty easy.

hmm, this can be done

An RPG I worked on a while back had units that had very brief, very powerful enrages, so that it was basically suicide to engage them when they had it and they had to be killed while it was off. That could be interesting.

For example, I had a type of monster that would sometimes cast Enrage, which gave it 300% attack speed bonus and -20% move speed (giving the player a chance to run) for 5 seconds.

that would also work on players; some unit who can do that, but afterwards needs help to stay alive until they can do it again.

yes this sounds like an awesome boss fight strategy.. dammit i love you wc3c.
Thank you guys so much, please don't stop i will surely credit you all if i use your ideas.