| 02-05-2003, 02:14 AM | #1 |
Guest | Well, I am split. Just a while ago, I was thinking of making a totally fair AoS, where large advantages over the enemy were hard to find. All spells would have a use, and none too powered. overpowered items, and nothing too cheap. Then, while at my friends house (he has a mac from like 1994 and plays his old warcraft 1 and 2 games) he suggested to me, at what I thought at the time (and still do), a great idea. Basically, we would have 2 teams: Humans and Orcs. Each team would have there seperate heroes, and each hero would have an queal on another team, with like stats and spells. Then, the real kick in the...thigh. He said that instead of overpowering heroes, I should overpower troops. Of course, that in itself was a really lame idea, but the thought inspired me. I decided that armies should probably be upgradable, since what this AoS was based off of (Wc 1 and 2 and the x-pac for 2) had more to do with army size than hero spells. So, instead of buying +30 to stats tomes, people would buy Chaos Grunts to replace regular grunts, or Elven Rangers to replace Elven Archers. Of course, with great power comes responsibility (lol). I wouldn't make the upgrades cost 5000 and add 50 dmg to each unit, but it would be sufficient enough to turn the tides of battles, and eventually destroy towers and barracks and castles faster. I was thinking, the standard upgrade for a melee person would be about 800 gold, and add 50 health and about 3 dmg each time it's bought. So, although this sin't much in the beginning, later in game when units have like 450 health and 35 dmg each, all that upgrading will have helped. You can upgrade your melee, your long range, but also add some units, such as flyers, and healers. Of course, AoS: Orcs and Humans would take much longer than the Perfect AoS, with tons of triggers and mucho new spells and stuff, and it might not be 100% balanced in the end...but it might be worth it. So...what do you guys think? which one should I work on more? |
| 02-05-2003, 02:18 AM | #2 |
Why not merge them together? |
| 02-05-2003, 02:22 AM | #3 |
wow couldnt have said it any better, y not? |
| 02-05-2003, 02:27 AM | #4 |
Guest | Well, basically, the Fair aos is kinda more traditional, with 3 lanes, and that kinda stuff. However, I truly want to embelish AoS: Orcs and Humans (if I ever get around to it), which would mean more places to go besides up, down, and middle (think maybe like DoTA or Aeon of Elders). Also, it might give a much advantage to crowd clearers over 1 v 1 people, because soon they wouldn't be able to get anough money and their team would fail. |
| 02-05-2003, 02:36 AM | #5 |
Well, DotA is already fair enough for me. So, I will have to vote for Orcs and Humans... |
| 02-05-2003, 02:42 AM | #6 |
Guest | k, if you wanna call that fair, then it looks like I'm gonna be spending alot of my time in front of the cpu to make a really good map. Ima wait a couple days before continuing. |
| 02-05-2003, 02:43 AM | #7 |
Guest | and, i mean continuing as in continuing my map, you guys continue to vote. |
| 02-05-2003, 03:23 AM | #8 | |
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what?!?! really? is there a new version out or something? that map is so broken! It's unbalanced! definitely cool, but sheesh, the lightning guy with unholy frenzy kills shit so fast... and his ultimate... egash EDIT: not to mention the phantom lancer! sheesh, his ultimate SLAUGHTERS buildings, and just about anything else, come to think of it. |
| 02-05-2003, 03:31 AM | #9 |
i think over all they are even.... ive won with both and lost with both... and the Phantom lancer is a good guy and counters the electric guy |
| 02-05-2003, 11:30 AM | #10 |
Guest | DotA is fair but bugged. (skills dont work, vamp of lyc is bugged and passiv storm spirit skill doesnt work) its not fair cause it is balanced, its cause most heroes are overpowered nuke is too powerful, the Flame Lord is the uberhero.. ranged and with 650 Area Damage. Now add the 450 insta dmg of the healsorc... thats 800 area damage and 300 target damage.. GG the rowen with his 2 yetis, shockwave and teleport is a living goldmine, not to mention the phantom lancer ultimate has is like a free win, with 1 suicide runs you can take out the rax easy.. with 2 the mainbuilding but the tauren is garbage, only useful with EQ rush. The Lycantrop is worst hero ever. the terrain looks nice but is bad done DotA2 is teh ubersux, worst map ever. oh and shadow plate needs higher cost, everybody just buys it. i vote for your human vs orcs. |
| 02-05-2003, 08:08 PM | #11 |
Guest | Yeah, sadly, neither of them really have completely fair heroes. They are good, but some heroes just dont compare with the others. Anyway, If you guys want, I'll post my ideas on either one of the AoS's, but only if you ask politely... lol |
| 02-05-2003, 09:04 PM | #12 |
hay you wanted to make an AOS with upgrades. why not have you build the buildings like you build an ork barracks and then upgrade it and stuff. you might need a larger map but hay that might be kool. |
