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Symphony of Death

05-08-2003, 05:58 PM#1
Aquatic_Elf
Ok, we'll continiue discussion here. (For the mod: This is a continiuation of The Rise of the Necromancer thread, but since it is too large, we'll continiue here. Is that OK?)
05-08-2003, 06:26 PM#2
Magic
Why would the Legion -not- invade Lordaeron?
And wouldn't the Scourge have destroyed everything anyway?
05-08-2003, 06:52 PM#3
Dorelian
I like the idea of this campaign...but why talk in a thread?? wouldnt you like a forum at a site??

PM me for info :)
05-09-2003, 07:28 AM#4
Guest
Oh, and a lot more would happen if the legion didn't invade. For one, the night elves wouldn't be druids. There would be no world tree. The night elves would practice magic. There would be no high elves. There would be no elf-human alliance. The continents would not be split. The dragon's soul never would have been forged and all of the dragon aspects and mates would still be around. There would be no Lich King, no orcs, no undead. Kel'Thuzad wouldn't have joined the scourge. Medivh wouldn't have gone mad in wc1. Cutting out the Burning Legion might effect the history of warcraft quite a bit no?
05-09-2003, 11:27 AM#5
Aquatic_Elf
Quote:
Originally posted by martinpulido
Oh, and a lot more would happen if the legion didn't invade. For one, the night elves wouldn't be druids. There would be no world tree. The night elves would practice magic. There would be no high elves. There would be no elf-human alliance. The continents would not be split. The dragon's soul never would have been forged and all of the dragon aspects and mates would still be around. There would be no Lich King, no orcs, no undead. Kel'Thuzad wouldn't have joined the scourge. Medivh wouldn't have gone mad in wc1. Cutting out the Burning Legion might effect the history of warcraft quite a bit no?


Well, I was refering to the last invasion of the Demons... How would there be no high elves? There already was an alliance with the elves and humans in W3.

And this is a paralel univeres. Thay would not attack becouse of, ummmmm, bad plane-tranveling traffic??? 'Dorelian, I'm PMing you now.
05-09-2003, 12:07 PM#6
skeletor
ive got a couple questions on this:

Map 1(cinematic)

Scene 1:

The king is walking in his garden. 4 Royal Gueards ar folowing him. Garona comes out of nowhere(telepeorts there), kills the guards ad stands in front of the king.

King: "Who are you? What do you want?"
Garona: "For you, I am Death, and Death shall take life.

She kills him. Princ Arthas comes running with a couple of Royal Guards. Garona kills one of the guards and teleports with Arthas (somewhere?).

Scene 2: The Princess (Calia) is standing. Behind her are 5 Royal Guards, formed in a half-circle. Lord Uther is standing next to her. In front of her a lot of peasants yelling "YEAAAHH".

Uther: "By the decision of The Holy Order of Paladins, I, Lord Uther, name you, Princess Calia, Queen of Lordaeron."
Calia:" The enemy's actions shall be revenged. garona had allies here. Uther! Dissband my father council and arrest them all."
Uther:"But my Lady, the council..."
Calia: "The council is NOT to be trusted! I gave you my orders! The new council shall be chosen by me!"

Scene 3: The New council
Cast: Queen Calia
Lady Ecaterina
Duchess Yvone de Leisombre
Lord Evershade
Lord Deepburrow
Duke Windstone
Calia: You are my High Council. The first decision we have to make is what to do with the old council members. Ecaterina..."
Ecaterina"Trhey were sent to Everglade, a small town in the north."
Calia: "Very well, we shall..."
Guard (running in) : "My Lady! The indead have attacked Everglade. It seems that the old council members are commanding them. They have separathen into two armies. One is marching east, and the other north."
Calia: 'They must be stoped! Yvone, stop the army at the east. You should be able to manage them by yourself. Windstone, Evershade, Deepburow, you take the army at the west. Ecaterina, you follow me!"


questions:
1)do all of these take place 1 after another, or are they all at the same time?
2)how does garona kill people? i mean what attack? should it just be a normal attack, or a special-effect-ful attack, with cool camera movements?
3)when will all of these take place?
4)could you pm me the first map?
please just answer me and dont quote. it gets confusing that way

thanks
05-09-2003, 01:41 PM#7
Dorelian
ok, aquatic, check you PM box! :D
05-09-2003, 01:53 PM#8
Sytadel
Quote:
Originally posted by Magic
Why would the Legion -not- invade Lordaeron?
And wouldn't the Scourge have destroyed everything anyway?

Heh, I remember you from Cuc =)

There's not really meant to be a great deal of logic or explanation behind the Legion not invading, and I'm not expecting them to even be mentioned in the campaign. I mean they waited ten thousand years, surely they can wait another few months for our campaign to start and finish? =P

The scourge aren't preparing for the legion in this case, so they'd behave very differently. Perhaps they're a more modest force, not a massive stampede as they were in the campaign. As for the scourges existance (since they were created for the purpose of legion), I'll have to let Elf field that one as you do make a point.

Guys I'm probably being pedantic here, but I think for sakes of professionalism we should be trying to make posts a bit easier to read. I'm probably just being a grammar nazi, it's kind of a pet peeve to see 11 consecutive exclamation marks and words with key vowels missing...

Aquatic, I would appreciate a really detailed synopsis on what the first 3 maps are, and some firm decisions to be made. Email it to me if you need to. Right now I'm just terraining map 2, as I don't want to do anymore incase it doesn't work out/I need to change it. I am including elves of the water, and I will use the dialog tutorial if it's nescessary. *mafia-style nod to Amadeus for the heads up on that ^-^*. Also, I am terraining map 2 to account for the aquatic elves. I plan to create a semi-underwater town for them, which'll look good if I can pull it off.

btw, I found an old template of a website (one of mine) which would be great for Symphony of Death. It looks really spiffy, so I'll recycle it and that can be our campaign page =)
05-10-2003, 08:56 AM#9
Sytadel
Here's some screens of map 2:

#1 - Just above the players base, you can also make out an undead outpost at the top,

#2 - This is a sidequest, two rogue bases. At the top one the player will discover the lower one is located to the north west of his base, and after getting there he'll earn a new unit/item. The one north west of his base requires the player to break through some lumber (see screen 4)

#3 - The player's very limited base. The pally there will be replaced with the hero/hero skin when we get it.

#4 - A small path leading into the players base. Also details on how the player can reach the 2nd bandit camp.
05-10-2003, 09:19 AM#10
skeletor
*great maps!:foot:

*is the whole first map a cinematic?

*aqua, could you answer my questions? please!

*i am starting on cinemas today, so...

*i looked at the map, and there were a whole bunch of custom units. what are those for

*done with scene 1
05-10-2003, 12:03 PM#11
skeletor
okay, i have finished scene one, but I dont think it is perfect. if you could give me some feedback...

which scene happens in the giant dome-like area? 2 or 3?
i know that the shandris sint the real model of garona, and ill change it later. also, ill change all of the units when someone skins them. also ill add the special effects soon
05-10-2003, 12:39 PM#12
Guest
man...it's crap!!!
the killing stinks... the teleportation needs special effects... all crap...and sence it's a so short movie...you should make all scenes in 1 large map!
05-10-2003, 01:04 PM#13
skeletor
it is only the first scene, and if you read my post you would have seen that i will add special effects ans sounds later!!!sheesh!!!

there will be 2 more scenes to come. also, if you read my past post, i asked what da attack should be.

please next time, study before you flame necromandude!!!!
05-10-2003, 06:28 PM#14
skeletor
okay, ive finished scene 1 out of three.
is garona evil.

which scene goes where. this is killing me!!! i am trying to figure it uot, but I cant. please tell meemote_confused emote_confused emote_confused

also, can I edit the map just a bit to match my needs
05-11-2003, 01:53 AM#15
Sytadel
Oh dear. emote_sweat
  • Putting units in slow motion never simulates walking. It just looks like slow motion. Have them run instead.
  • You could see big areas of white marble in the background.
  • If you want the same effect (them exploding), order her to attack them and make it so they explode on death. That way she'll actually shoot arrows at them.
  • Can't she cast spells or something? Shoot one for example, shockwave another, etc...?
  • The teleport is out of sync.
  • What the hell is wrong with your english? You had glaring errors like 'youre' instead of 'your' (and you even forgot the apostrophe on that), the exclamation mark got clear overusage too. How bad would blizzard's campaigns be if they were:
    Cenarius: theirs orcs in our lands!!!!!!! kill 'em!!!!
    Hellscream: cut down tehm trees, we cant let the elfs women scare us!!!!!

To generalize, it's crap. The camera is static most of the time, the garden is incomplete, it's stagnant and people wont get the right idea about it. If her and Arthas are teleporting off somewhere together, make them look at each other, walk next to each other, then teleport off.