Little Issue

That name change is good. If it is original (ie: not copied from anywhere), than I think it is a good move for the mod instead of being called NRM.

Anyways, I am just curious... Is there any plans in the future to give your own names to some of the units? Like not copied ones? I am just curious, because what makes a lot of mods so great, is that they are original.

In a previous thread I made a few months ago, I mentioned how, you copying names, not only is very non-creative, but it just doesn't make sense.

Example: Greater Demon of Khorne or whatever.. You might as well create a unit called Bane of Tristram or Scourge of Lothar. It just doesn't make sense in this world you have created. You are copying names directly with no creativity that are based on people or locations that do not exist in your mod. I also think, that since your mod is filled with Warhammer Ideas, you should acknowledge them.

Well, these are something I think you need to address before the stupid little things like - This model is wrong or these don't have death animations...

Later,
-Fiery_Maelstrom

Edit: I take this back, apparently you even used Khorne himself :bgrun: :nono:





PS: I love your sig Raging Demon.. it's hilarious.. I almost cried laughing.



LOL, Retarted hahahaha... Is that some sort of baking reference..

Maybe you should follow your own advice...

khorne isnt a place in warhammer its actually a demon god wether he excist in the NRM i dont know mine isnt working for some reason

in case your punitive brain was too pathetic to realise, i spelt it as retarted on PURPOSE, you retard.

[by, the way, you dont seem, to need, a dictionary, but you, sure need, a punctuation, textbook]

Punctuation Textbook? You never cease to making me laugh.

So did you have anything important there? I saw no response to my main point... *useless post*

Please edit it and tell me your thoughts.

-Fiery_Maelstrom


Edit: Spelling words wrong causes more confusion than grammatical errors. In the end that you could not read it for some reason (which is what must have happened as you did not reply), I will repost it with less grammatical errors.

Here ya go,
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When I noticed that your mod had an official name-change to Tales of Ravignion, I was pleased to see that it was beginning to show some creativity. I think that is this is a good first-step in making your mod even better.

The point of this post, though, is a simple question that I have. Is there any plans in the nearby future to create some of your own, unique and creative, names for some of the units and buildings in the mod? I say this, because many of the units' names in the mod seem to derive from other popular games. Many mods out there put a lot of time into creating names for their units and buildings. This unique naming of the units greatly enhances the gameplay of the mod because it creates the feeling that you are playing in a completely-new universe.

I was also going to mention a reference to how you should not copy names that, in-themselves, have a name of another person/place/idea that is not in your mod. I choose not to type it again, due to the fact that I read that you also copied the name of the god. In my opinion, that is a blow against your mod and is dampering it's already barely-noticable creativity - not saying the mod is bad, I think that is actually quite good visually.

I think that this is a very important subject that should be prioritized above death-animations or other visual things. I hope that you do not take this post as a flame, as I do hope to see the mod progress.

I also would like to hear what you guys, the staff and the leader, think on this issue. I will ignore comments that have nothing to do with the subject (RagingDemon's above post, for example).

Thanks for your time,
Fiery_Maelstrom


PS: If you notice any grammatical errors, please tell me in your reply post or via PM, so I can fix them before Raging Demon makes a huge issue (and another useless post) on them.

Thanks! :D

well, you still made a lot of lovely-punctuation-errors, like overusing-the-hyphon ^__^.

Rightfield is on vacation right now, he isnt back yet. And i AM part of the team, by the way ¬_¬.

Now that that's settled, I really cannot believe you are saying that changing their NAMES is more important than the modelwork. How would YOU like a lovely NRM/TToR with completely NO new models and buildings that just sat there after they died, but lots of cool original unit NAMES? Granted, SOME of the names are from Warhammer, like the Chaos Gods. However, ogres, trolls, wood elves, lizardmen, rat men and mindflayers were not invented by the creators of warhammer. AND if you had bothered to look closer, you'd probably also have noticed that only the Gods' NAMES are taken, and that things like "spirit of slannesh/slaanesh" dont exist in warhammer in the first place. If its REALLY that important to you, wait till Rightfield comes back before you start on this again.

And about the loading screens coming from the codexes, frankly, I always thought the loading screens were kind of crappy anyway. I'm not sure if Righfield intends to change those too, but you have to wait for him to get back for an answer.

[btw, that Box dude was Krazysigmarite. You still want to support the fact that he was merely asking nicely? His post was obviously an attempt to stir shit. In future, please do a background check on people before you support them blindly, thank you very much.]

I did post an issue on this awhiole ago and that other post only reminded me. *I*, though, am not doing this in an attempt to stir shit.

Maybe I like Hyphens? -_-

Models are important, all I am saying that names are what create the game. Maybe I will drop this until I see the new version. A lot has changed, and this may not be much of an issue anymore.

-Fiery_Maelstrom

PS: Also, thank you for your comments. I won't bring this up again until I have played the new version. (If I think it is still a problem).

You can ignore my post also, if you want. Your mod, your right to.

BAH, how could i have spelt hyphens wrongly. ¬_¬. I'd better stop playing TFT and bashing people at the same time -__-;.

yes, i know you arent trying to stir shit, but krazy and trolllllzzzz were. yes, many changes have been made, only the Chaos Gods' names are still in there as far as i know, just that only their names are used, not their units. The fact that some of the units were based of warhammer things is undeniable, but as of now most of the units have been changed beyond recognition, i think ¬_¬;.

i really dont think that the names are that important right now. again, i ask whether you would have us focus on the balance and the more important stuff or the trivial rubbish like the names, "OMG UR USING THE PITLAROD INSTEAD OF THE DOOMGURAD" and "OMG UR USING THE CODEXES FOR THE LADOING SRCEEN". Evidently none of the stuff in the previous versions were final, so just wait and see before you dredge up more errors about the already-defunct version. thanks.

[btw, i LOVE your sig =>. VERY sneaky way of linking to mod___forge =D]

How dare you?! I am merely trying to defend my favorite company and game, warhammer. :P

But now I know why you were so defensive, you are part of the staff!

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAH cough ow

Anyway, the guy with the draini for an avatar (too lazy to check his name, don't really care either) is right, just like I was. You are thieves. Theives, thieves thieves, and thieves. Have any of you ever read the warhammer backround or storyline? There is a lot of it. A ton of it. And for familiar names to pop up in some mod really pisses me off. For example: Tzeench, being a hero. The Dark God of Change himself, his name desecrated by your vile inability to come up with your own names.

GET YOUR OWN DAMN CONCEPT ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now this is a dumb@$$,its changing-there will be no traneczz or whatewer i think,a beholder and mind flayer 'cough'D''cough"&D'sniff"

now,please,this is not final


D&D is gReAtD

well im part of a mod team for c&c generals thats making a warhammer 40k mod, and we are giving full credit to them, the diffrence is we are making a wh40k mod, the tor team is not, they are simply using ideas.

i dont see why so many people are giving the tor team such a hard time about this, they should probably put in the credits something like thatnks to gamesworkshop for ideas and names, but honostly no one really cares...

mods are free and so there are no copywrite issues so ultimately its up to the mod team, quit your bitching and leave the tor team alone if you hate the names of their units

Thanks for the support pyro .

In my opinion, we shouldnt be giving credit to games workshop just for names and some ideas, since (for example) JRR tolkien, one of the(if not the) first to make up orcs and elves as they are now, doesnt get any, or very few credit from mod makers now. I know, he's dead, but still i don't think games workshop deserves more credit than tolkien. OR we give credit to both, or to none.
It's just names and unit species.

CLOSED due to flaming.

Dre