Maps on Battle.net

I have seen many great maps since the beginning of Warcraft III but it seems as if only the stupid, simple, rediculus maps become popular... e.g. Footman War, Legendary Heros... You get the point. Why aren't the good, quality maps becoming popular?

Beacuse b net is fill with stupid mindless idiots and 10 year olds. B net is like stupid person magnet. I disagree with the footie war being stupid, can learn a bit with it, if the heros are balanced etc, like surround and bits of micro here and there, and yes it does help, maybe need to be a bit more open minded when playing some maps, try to see the good side rather than the bad side because being synical the whole time isnt very fun:nono:

i disagree

Cube Defense, Zoatar TD, DotA, Rival Nations...
these maps are some of the most popular AND everybody loves em. Is "cube" a crappy map? Not at all... you can win the higher levels only if u get a smart mazing running. Zoatar? Beside the fact that you NEED to mass ultimate towers later, its the best td out with the tactical armor and weapon type stuff, as well as creeping-idea. DotA? You know it. Compared to the other crappy maps like "Extreme AoS v.8.2 Dark-Edit!!!!11" it owned. Even if it is no more that special now. Well Rival Nations ... no comment, just ownage.
Maybe some people like shit like Crap AoS 124.13, HeRo ArEnA 12341.214 MoMoney!! or Hellcaster-only-TD.

You need to make the map not only innovative and with high quality, you need an often re-play-able map.

Hmm lets look at my first map. When the first AoS by dragon_king and kor_illiden came out (1 team vs cpu .. shop had only tomes and ankh.. months later came the team vs team thingy) I loved the style of the map - but it was just crappy done. So I made my own one instead of editing. I made 6 balanced heroes, added cpu heroes.. and lots of stuff.
Maybe it was because of the discon-bug that was in my map.. but it never got really popular even if it rocked the other AoS maps. But who cares? I got _more_ than _50_ mails from different peoples in my mailbox telling me they like the map, ask for new versions or report bugs. Some guys helped me with bugtracking and some new features over some weeks.
What do you say now? Was it worth it or not? Should I care that it got never popular?

Yeah there are also great maps like dota, but ive to agree with windforce, most are stupid games....

They are also most edited to be rigged, which is also stupid.

Yes, I agree, whenever I sign on to Battle.net and play some custom games, all I see are the stupid ones now. I rarely EVER see Zoatar TD or DotA anymore, just the boring Maul-type TDs and the AoS maps which have already been done a billion times, and other stupid maps in general. It's really getting boring.

Theres Tides of Blood, Which is ALOT better than DotA ALOT BETTER... Little kids like to cheat so they pick the rigged maps.. :\/

Ugh man I hate when theres a way to gain advantage over everyone. It should be a fair fight to the end and only give rewards to those who win battles.

The way I see it, what's the fun in rigged maps? Ooh, I won a custom map by rigging, BIG DEAL. It's not like winning custom maps really proves anything except for luck or skill or knowledge of the map, which you all void by rigging. So what's the point in the long run?

Let's see:

Cube didn't last as long as "AOS RIGG3D #*$&ING AMOUNT OF GOLD ELITE VERSION"

Zoator lost its touch

DOTA also lost to the hands of "AOS RIGG3D #*#*ING AMOUNT OF GOLD ELITE VERSION"

Now, we have 100 versions of AOS, Hero Arenas, and Footies. By the slightest luck, you'll see "Fortress Wars"...

BTW: Pokemaul Gold is the best maul and better than some other wannabe TDs.

BTW 2: Angel Defense 1.1 is a damn good AoS, but unfortunately, it was only hosted once and MY DAMN COMP STILL CAN'T HOST.

uh..... u should be ****in shot for saying pokemaul is good. Ya know what was good... IT WAS ===WINTER===Maul.


ya, winter, wiiinnnnttteerrr. The first The BEST. THE ONLY MAUL HOSTED ON FT BETA, IT WAS HEAVEN. ALL THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE PLAYED THE BETA

not only was there a lack of fagass maps that were worthless. all the players (thought they may be few) were true wc3 and intelligent players

DUKE WINTERMAUL AND ARKGUILE WOULD TURN OVER IN THEIR GRAVES (if they were dead) BECAUSE OF ALL THE SHIT THAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MAPS

i really think that there should be some sort of intelligent custom maps moderator that knows good maps from bad ones and ****in sorts it like that.

here we go ill sort it into categories

1. Custom Melee (with or without observers) -- for those who want to better their strategies without bettering their loss count

2. AoS -- the shit aos

3. Good AoS -- tides of blood, dota, monstermash, etc....

4. Minigame -- cops and robbers, kodo tag, uther party (mostly good ones)

5. Tower Defense -- bad tower defenses -- yugiooh or whatever it is, ALL THE GAY *** MAULS (pokemaul, everquest planes of powermual), ALL THE GAY *** ARKGUILES (arkguiles with tanks..shoot me now, NE arkguiles)

6. Good Tower defenses -- Vo1ds power defense, evil tower defense (i think thats what its called), the original arkguiles, cube, zoater

7. RPs -- most arent that bad i dont play a lot but usually the people who are playing are not little fags

Anyone who wants to add to the list feel free...but dont if ur younger than 14 and a fag.

However, id like to end my post with a little anecdote...

" me and my friends Stuart, Billy, and Jon were playing an Arkguiles map (we were lanned up so in the same room) that was supposed to be played with 4 people, so we werent doing anything worng and we were gettin our *** kicked. Basically were pretty much gettin assraped by wendigos or some shit. So then Jon pipes up and says, "damn, were gettin our *** kicked, oh hold on, here ill go edit it". Stuart immediately farted on his hand and slapped jon in the face with it. The rest of us looked at jon with that "are u that ****in retarded" stare. He immediately says "uhhhh.....just kidding?"...."

thats my anecdote and clearly explains my feelings. SO i guess if anyone wants to post any anecdotes im sure they would be appreciated

I go on bnet and if I dont feel like playing a melee game i go look at the custom maps being hosted. About a minute of looking yeilds absolutely no good maps being hosted so I think "damn, bnet needs my world of warcraft map so there arnt all these stupid maps being played" then I go work on my world of warcraft map. to bad I neglected to make the terrain for the entire continent of kalimdor. Now, since i have a bunch of triggers/doodads/and units it takes 10-20 seconds for the land to appear from the ocean (using the make terrain level tool).

But think of it this way. At least its nothing like starcraft where it was filled with mostly bad ums maps AND the entire melee part of it was filled with "BGH ULTIMATE INFINITE $$$$$$$$$$$". And you know that filter for the maps... to bad there isn't a bad map/good map filter. Where anything with a map name containing a string you enter would be off the list you see. oooo or maybe they could make their next strategy game M rated (please be starcraft 2) so then the little kids couldnt buy it cause their parents wont let them... actually, my starcraft box and cd case says its rated M for some odd reason... did I win something or what?

Yes, you're right, it could be as bad as Starcraft was... luckily it hasn't reached that point yet, and hopefully never will. And yes, Starcraft is rated M, or it least it used to be, I don't know about it anymore. However, I don't think it would make much of a difference, because I've seen 8 year olds getting their parents to buy GTA3 for them.

Map protection is a blessing. Anyway, there should be a block for games that say No Noobz! Or Xpertz Only! or Dl = Boot. That really confused me, seeing Dl = Boot for an expansion map on like the first day.

I dont think anyone has the right to determine the diff between a good and a bad map, just beacause you think your so "intelligent" doesnt mean you can tell what people will like, just beacause those "fagass" people like the maps that you think are bad, doesnt make them bad, its all your opinion, and your ONE opinion doesnt count for shit.
You must also relise that flaming someone else for saying what they think is a good map just makes you seem like the "fagass"