| 07-24-2003, 10:29 PM | #1 |
I am working on a War2 Classic units and its gonna be down to every1 detail practicly except the graphic of course. But I am talking about HP, attack,upgrades,spells,build time. And does any1 know how speed and range are converted from war2 to 3? some1 said if the range was 4 in war2, it is 400 it war3. Also can u make it so u cant choose Undead or NE? |
| 07-24-2003, 10:36 PM | #2 |
Range in WC3 is actually about 225 times greater than in WC2. So, if the unit had a range of 4 in WC2, then their range in WC3 would be 900 (4 * 225). How do I know this? Because I've already done what you propose to do ;) |
| 07-24-2003, 10:59 PM | #3 |
What bout speed?(converted as when war2 is at its fastest speed) U mean ur making a war2 classic map also? Hm I came across a few problems...there are too many buildings. And sight is converted the same way? O yes for war2 upgrades use +10 not change the whole thing. Hoiw can I make it so its like +10 nad not change the whole attack thing? |
| 07-24-2003, 11:28 PM | #4 |
Okay, I'll answer what I can understand of your post... 1.) I havn't tested unit speed, so I don't know an approximate conversion 2.) I'm not making a WC2 "classic map", I'm remaking WC2 in the WC3 engine. I'm not remaking any of the multiplayer maps though 3.) Too many buildings? If you mean too many to fit on one card, then, yes there are. If you look around this board, someone posted a way to have as many as you want :) 4.) No. I thought you were discussing sight range in your first post. WC3 Sight Range = WC2 Sight * 225. WC3 Attack Range = WC2 Attack Range * 90. 5.) "O yes for war2 upgrades use +10 not change the whole thing. Hoiw can I make it so its like +10 nad not change the whole attack thing." No idea what you're talking about here, but I havn't fiddled with upgrades yet EDIT: Changed answer 4 EDIT 2: These are just numbers that I feel work and translate good. They are by no means official or 100% accurate (How can they be, changed from a 2D engine to a 3D engine?) |
| 07-24-2003, 11:35 PM | #5 |
Say that attack of a footie is 5-20 and when u do a upgrade it goes like 5-20(+20) and not 5-40. Also it seems like were doing the same thing. :bgrun:. I saw a war2 classic map but it was kinda messed up bc dragons were just exactly like drakes so it was super powerful while ghrypons were normal |
| 07-24-2003, 11:38 PM | #6 |
Like I said, I haven't tried to do anything with upgrades yet. Here's a link to the page with the WC2 combat mechanics, you should take a look at it (I havn't implemented any of it, yet): WC2 Combat Equation |
| 07-24-2003, 11:40 PM | #7 |
yea i already got some of the combat equation stuff done already |
| 07-25-2003, 05:00 AM | #8 |
element_5, when's that conversion coming out, already? And are you doing it as a mod or as a highly-tweaked map series? (I prefer the tweaked maps. Mods can be a pain) |
| 07-25-2003, 04:40 PM | #9 |
Hmm, I don't know the silly terminology we've come up with (mod vs. tweaked maps?) but I'm going to say that it's a single player campaign with a crazy amout of triggers, custom units/spells/upgrade, modified interface (those buttons are great, thanks!), new models/skins, and new features (like Oil, if I can ever get the damn thing to work properly). So, mod or tweaked maps, you be the judge ![]() As to a release date, I'm not even thinking about that yet. Right now I'm in the last stages of getting oil drilling to work, and I will release an example of that. After that, I should know a little better when the release date will be. If you want, becase you helped out (:D), you can beta test each map as I finish it. EDIT: Also, I think it needs to be said that the project was on hiatus for a few months while I finished up college, but is back in full swing now. Hopefully, me getting a job soon won't interfere too much ;) |
| 07-25-2003, 06:55 PM | #10 |
Sice ur alrady working on a war2 map i will just not work on mine then |
| 07-25-2003, 08:09 PM | #11 |
Nah, go ahead and make yours too. Really no reason not to, especially if yours is going to be playable over BNet :D |
| 07-25-2003, 11:25 PM | #12 |
What u mean? |
| 07-26-2003, 12:31 AM | #13 |
I try not to put down other people projects beacause its up to them to choose what they do, but why would someone rather play wc2 than wc3, wc3 in my opinion is more fun. EDIT: sure I would like to try it once or twice, but I cant see myself playing it over and over |
| 07-26-2003, 12:41 AM | #14 |
heres what i think war 2 was a really good game but war 3 is a better game seeing as it is the next in the series so why make a war 2 mod (it may be good for creating skins and stuff but not much else) |
