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The Tale of Archon Part 1 Released!

08-31-2003, 05:00 PM#1
Iron_Ian
For those of you who haven't seen part 1 yet, it can be downloaded here:
http://ttoa.wc3campaigns.com/downloa...A-Chapter1.zip

Enjoy! :ggani:
08-31-2003, 05:22 PM#2
BlackLotus
Wow...****ing great...
What can i say...
In my eyes...it's better...much better then CotN
...The only "bad" thing is...

it's too short...
08-31-2003, 05:46 PM#3
FrostBite
yup, owns the **** outa cotn

BTW can i use the model for the trees? would really help me
08-31-2003, 06:02 PM#4
Freak
Whoa!! Seriously, WHOA!!

A COTN killer indeed - assuming that you can keep or even raise this level of quality :P

Great terrain, but 1 question: how the hell can there be some much green in a reign where there hasnt been rain for like 2 years? :P

Skins are very good, especially the blade master and the hurt Darius (if I remember correct :ggani: ).
08-31-2003, 06:03 PM#5
Iron_Ian
Thanks alot! :D
Glad you enjoyed it!

Frostbite, PM Exn about that tree model. It what ripped from the loading screen by him.

EDIT: Hmm... I never thought about the drought thing that much. Hmm maybe in the final version I'll change it to be only 1 month instead of two.
08-31-2003, 08:10 PM#6
Pesmerga
Just spectacular. Simply put, this is a master peice. The sound of the lightning bolts, the dramatic sequences of battle, a theme of urgency and wonderful creativity. I rate this a 10/10, perfect, it plays like a movie and leaves you wanting more. The skin of the female villager is just AWESOME and left me breathless. I loved how you skinned Darius's horse and the sequence where you ran while attacking. No, not a 10/10, a 100/100. Brilliant.
08-31-2003, 08:28 PM#7
Zurg(OLD)
i posted some about TToA over at revolutions. very good job. 9/10, ill post a full review when i get the chance to watch it again. This is really big for wc3 cinematics. Its really the only new "professional" cinematic out there since CotN. Btw DK, look out cause if u dont make part 6 uber-good then TToA is going to beat u. ;) All i can say is that this and CotD are going to be the two big cinematics this year though TToA could be the better of the two. :D
08-31-2003, 08:28 PM#8
Iron_Ian
Wow! Thanks!

*Is so hyped up with adrenaline and morale that he runs off to work on TTOA part 2* :ggani: :ggani:

EDIT: Also please read the updated credits here:
http://revolutions.warcraft-syndicat...p?showtopic=94
08-31-2003, 09:13 PM#9
DaemonKillar
Honestly, I finally found a new rival! :D

I'll give you a full review of it when I get time, quite in a hurry right now. But really, great job. Good to see someone heard my call (Take what I gave to the cinematic community and make it better!)
08-31-2003, 10:14 PM#10
Zurg(OLD)
And since when have you been a cinematics maker? I havent seen much from CotN in a long time. ;) No, hes not your rival, your time is over, hes your successor.
08-31-2003, 10:24 PM#11
Rubber Ducky
- emote_sweat - Wow.
08-31-2003, 10:52 PM#12
Mech-Sheep
Terrain: A - It was damn good!

Music: A - Perfect timing! I love how the music was on the whole time. Tell me how to take off that stupid Warcraft default music on the background!

Story: B+ - It was pretty normal, but this is only part 1. I would prefered more of some information and such.

Effects: A+ - It's impeccable!

Overall: A = 9/10 - BEAUTIFUL CINEMATIC, but now I'm going to have to enhance my own cinematic :bgrun:
09-01-2003, 12:42 AM#13
Iron_Ian
Thanks everyone! :ggani:
Looking forward to that review DK! :D
09-01-2003, 12:53 AM#14
Pesmerga
My least favorite part was when I had to stop watching it over and over again. Really great
09-01-2003, 02:20 AM#15
DaemonKillar
Alright, Here's my 10 pages long review:

First of all I really want to congratulate you, it's been a long time since I've seen something of that level. Well in fact (no offense to anybody), I believe it is actually the first time ;). Strangely, watching this really made my day: it just gave me even more interest in finishing my own COTN. When you're all alone to do something in particular, you don't really feel the need to improve(which is really a major problem), and when you don't bring anything new, you quickly lose interest. But since I saw this, I quickly told myself "Alright, what he has done is pretty amazing and of my level, now I must do as he did and do better with the stuff he brought" (You probably told yourself something similar before doin this cin ;) ). So I thought of new stuff I could add to COTN 5 which quickly reanimated this nearly lost "passion". As a result, you just gave me what I needed to regain interest so I'd like to thank you for that.

Also, since I believe you're very talented, I'll have you become a mod of this forum if you desire. I'll also make a public announcement on the COTN webpage and will try and get one on the wc3c news so people realize i'm not the only one that can do good cinematics. Ask Skull to get a forum for your project, that's what gave life to COTN actually so it should be the same for TTOA. k enough with the announcements, here's the review!

Terrain: It was really good and high quality. I really liked the forest, it had a good amount of details and you did as I told: "Use my stuff and make it better"(Altought I wanted to keep that tree model for myself, greedy bitch eh? ;)) There are still some flaws I noticed. it's mainly the city that looks too... unnatural. It lacked details compared to the forest and they both contrasted a lot during the cin. Other than that, I can tell you used the new FT environment doodads really well!

Terrain Grade - 85%

Story: Well it's an introduction, so it doesn't really tell much and that's normal. Still, it starts quite abruptly. Something that sounded odd was the captain's speech when they attacked, it sounded really desperate when he hadn't even seen anything from the enemy. I woulda freaked out if I had such a pessimistic captain to lead me IMO :ggani:. Despite this minor problem, the events really went on smoothly and remained interesting. That battle was really displayed perfectly!

Story Grade - 90%


Cameras: You made a really good use of them, especially when the attack began, it made the scene look really panicking! The forest shots were also enjoyable I would say. Yet, there is once again a minor problem: When you move around the city and in the forest, the camera movements are just not fluid enough. They abruptly change direction and kinda break the mood you gave to the scene. Like, one cam goes slowly, then when you issue another cam it just speeds up. Try and correct that in a future update

Cameras Grade - 90%


Music and SFX: Wellt hat was pretty much near perfection, I don't have much more to say about that. You're one of those that understood it's all about music and sound effects ;)

Music and SFX Grade - 99% (nothing is prefect :ggani:)

**Note
I had 3 white fade out and back in at the beginning. There was probably something to show up there (Something announcing TTOA). Yet, it showed white screens. The problem was probably because your texture size wasn't in conformity with most 3D cards standard resolutions(Short, it wasnt a multiple of 32). You might want to fix that too.


Now, I'll explain what I meant with "Take my stuff and make it better/add more to it". Basically, COTN gave the tools and ideas to use in order to make an above average cinematic. Yet, the idea is to always go deeper and find new ideas while still using the old ones. So here are the major ideas you brought I could notice:
- Reskin a unit when it is wounded (That Arthas that got rocked, pretty good idea there)
- Have different skins for every villager (major plus when you don't have much in the town, helps with variety and credibility)
- Customized weapon sound effects! (the blademaster scene , that was really cool BTW)

Note to some people around
I kinda find it insulting to see people forget so easily when they find something better. I personally don't really appreciate the term "COTN killer", it sounds as if you just ignore what I brought to the cinematic community. Please remember most of the cin projects around would never have come to life if I hadnt been here (I'm not telling you should all eternally bow in front of me, I'm just asking for a minimum of recognition please :D ) This sentence I prefer to take as a joke(which is the case, but looks unclear) left me quite... let's say... confused: No, hes not your rival, your time is over, hes your successor. That quite discouraging to hear as Iron Ian's project is just going to make my own even more alive. Please call it something else like "COTN Rival" or sumthin like that. Keep it clean please so we can continue to have fun while having some of this friendly rivalry :gsmile:

In conclusion this Cinematic is definitely DK Approved and deserves this award of excellence :D