Warlock, Pitlord, Dreadlord and Ranger Heroes

I got a couple of quick questions. Appreciate any help in answering them.

Are the Warlock, and Ranger actual heroes in the game?

Why doesn't Kil'jaeden have abilities simliar to Archimonde? Worst, Kil'jaeden doesn't have any abilites by default.

Wasn't the Ranger hero the original 4th hero in ROC when it was in the predevelopment stages? Why wasn't it implemented in TFT if it needed a 4th hero. This is done for the Orcs since hte Shadow Hunter was the 4th hero in ROC in its development stages.

Now for the Pitlord, are there actually 2 in the game? One in TFT and one in ROC, cause they seem to have different abilities by default. Why does the old Pitlord have a mixture of abilities from other heroes?

Finally, how come there are 2 dreadlord models: the normal dreadlord and the Balnazzar/Tichondrius model (which looks better by the way)?

Thank you.

Ok...well this isn't really the kind of post you'd put in map development, nonetheless I'll answer your questions.

Are the Warlock, and Ranger actual heroes in the game?
There is no Warlock hero, yes the Ranger was originally Sylvannas (spelling? no idea) Windrunner who had basically the priestess of the moon's spells but instead of searing arrows she had cold arrows. Since she was unplayable, and only there for the campaign story, she was given a mixture of abilities.

Why doesn't Kil'jaeden have abilities simliar to Archimonde? Worst, Kil'jaeden doesn't have any abilites by default.
Ok, same sort of deal, the campaign has archimonde with crazy abilities (i.e. finger of death) because he's used as a fighting hero in the final mission, however Kil'jaeden is used for a cinematic and never needed to fight anyone, therefore they didn't bother giving him abilities.

Wasn't the Ranger hero the original 4th hero in ROC when it was in the predevelopment stages? Why wasn't it implemented in TFT if it needed a 4th hero. This is done for the Orcs since hte Shadow Hunter was the 4th hero in ROC in its development stages.
The new heroes for each race were designed to specifically aid their races, the orcs needed early healing, the undead needed a tank, the nightelves didn't really need the warden, but she's cool anyway. The blood mage wasn't especially needed but then again, the Ranger was incomplete and didn't have any proper abilities designed, for unknown reasons they decided creating a brand new hero, and in my opinion a far cooler hero, the Bloodmage.

Now for the Pitlord, are there actually 2 in the game? One in TFT and one in ROC, cause they seem to have different abilities by default. Why does the old Pitlord have a mixture of abilities from other heroes?
Yes there are two Pitlord, it's quite simple, they knew mannoroth would not be played, so they gave him a mixture of abilities, while the PL for TFT was a new hero, i.e. they needed new abilities for him.

Finally, how come there are 2 dreadlord models: the normal dreadlord and the Balnazzar/Tichondrius model (which looks better by the way)?
At this point I'm beginning to wonder if you ever played the campaign......ok, Dreadlords are a race of vampiric like demons, of course Tichondrius was a much stronger Dreadlord than the others and because of this, they wanted to distinguish him from other dreadlords, thus they gave him a much cooler model of his own.

I hope these answers have been enlightening for you.

actually there is a warlock hero, Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden are warlocks.

play the campaigns

wtf has that got to do with anything?

Kil'jaeden isnt actually a hero.

yes he is, just cause he dosnt have any spells dosnt mean hes not a hero, with 10 minutes in the WE i can give him 4 reasonably balanced spells and lo! he is a complete hero.

Actually I have played both ROC and TFT campaigns 3 times. But those were questions that I had no idea so I figure I'll ask here.

Was Tichondrius the leader of the dreadlords like Mannoroth was the leader of Pitlords?
How come Balnazzar has the same model as Tichondrius, is he like 2nd in command?
If this dreadlord model was suppose to be a more powerful one, then how come the red dreadlord (who looks exactly like Tichondrius by the way) who aided Sylvannas is weaker than that Detheroc (green dreadlord who has a normal dreadlord model except bigger)?

Sylvannas wasn't the only ranger hero in the campaign. If you look at the first undead mission in TFT, you'll find another yellow ranger, so how come she's in there?

Finally, this is kinda stupid question but I'll ask anyways; how come there were so little burning legion units in ROC but a lot more in TFT? Are every single creep in the 'Outland' and 'Black Citadel' tilesets a burning legion unit?

Thank you.

no, the fel guard arnt burning legion, the infernal machines arnt burning legion, the voidwalkers arnt burning legion, the Draenei arnt burning legin, nither are the Nether Drakes and the succubi arnt burning legion, only the Eredar and Felhounds are burning legion in the outland tilesets.

Tichondrius - Leader of the dreadlords, distinguised by his red color and his different model.
Balnazzar - 2nd most powerful dreadlord, distinguised by his color and model.
Dreadlord who aided sylvanas, why is he Ultra Dreadlords model? - Because you play as him, so they made him look good and sound good with different spells so you dont play as the normal dreadlord you all know.
Sylvanas as a ranger + the other ranger - The 2nd ranger is suppost to be another High Elf ranger, there was more than one you know.

So how do you know the other units are not burning legion, say felguards?
How come the Infernal Juggernaut can summon Infernals?

Even if you're right about the demon units, how come there were so few ROC? I think there were 3 originally.

If many are not burning legion units, how they all came through the dimensional gate in that level where Illidan tried to close them?

The Eredar are the main burning legion race. Don't go and be a f**k-up and say that how come kil and archi have diff skin color then. humans have diff skin colors.

Actually none of the creatures on the outland tilesets are techinaccally burning legion, as Magtheridon was not really a member of the legion. But other felguard, succubi are legion races. The infernal machines are burning legion constructs. The reason Magtheridon had Legion soldiers and technology was because he was once a commander in the army, but after a time simply settled in Outland and no-longer followed orders.
The nether-drakes and the voidwalkers aren't all members of the legion, but some are members. The reason they atttampted to stop Illidan colsing the gates was that if the gates were destroyed then they would no longer be able to inhabit a world where they could effectively live freely with no problems.

About the lack of demon units in ROC:
In the really, really early days of ROC development (im talking about the time when the Night Elf moon priestess was a semi-nude purple woman riding a giant owl), alot of the eredar units in TFT (the models at least) were in ROC for the playable Demon race. But, when the demon race was scrapped, they were removed, because why bother having loads of units and abilities that were very rarely gonna be used. Instead, they kept them until the expansion (which was planned before ROC came out) so they could get more into it for no extra work.

Why would I ask Kil and Arch have different skin colours?
No need to be angry!

Anways, thanks for the replies everyone, I only asked because I was unsure, I wasn't trying to annoy anyone here.

I have one final question, if anyone here who has played the very first War3 beta, and have witnessed the deomn race, can you list the units of that race and their equilvalent to the demons in TFT?

Thanks.

I wasn't talking about you or any1 else on this thread so far, sorry if it came across that way. But there are people out there who would say something like that.

About the Demon race equivalents, I'm pretty sure demons were scrapped before Blizzard went public with it's Beta. I'v got some magazines that have pics with some of the v. early beta skills, and i imagine some other people might have some coverage of the early developmental stages, but if we put it together it would still be a pretty rough and incomplete list.

p.s., does anyone know where I might find the Owl riding moon priestess model? The icons in War3.mpq, but the skin/model is knowhere to be found. Maybe on the internet somewhere?

Felguards are a subclass of Fel Orc, one of the original orcs that took mannoroths blood, they are not part of the legion, they are just workers. Cause their not demons, they cant be part of the legion, dosnt mean they cant use demon magics tho.
Succubi are female Felguards (yes thats right, female corrupted orcs) dont ask me why, i think bliz just wanted an excuse to put more skimpily clad women into the game.
Infernal Juggernaut can summon infernals cause it uses the Magics of the Legion, its a construct of the Fel Orcs.

Voidwalkers and Nether Drakes were never part of the legion, their suppost to be mindless, some were drafted and enslaved by the legion, but most of them have nothing to do with the legion.

Oh and on the Kil and Arch having diff skins, its for 2 reasons - 1: so you can distinguish them, 2: Because Kil is suppost to be more Fire Orientated while Arch is suppost to be more tactics orientated. Also in the complete story of the BL Kil was bombarded with the original warlock magics (fire and brimstone stuff) which was what changed his skin color and gave him firey eyes and smoke coming off him.

Kil'jaeden drafted the Fel-Orcs into the Legion, and so fel-guards and fel-orcs are part of the legion.
And your reason for Kil'jaeden and Archimonde having different skins can't be that true because they are plainly both members of the Eredar species and the different Eredar units either have different skins or skin-tones.