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Tower Defence Maps?

10-06-2003, 09:55 PM#1
Das Jank
Ok me persnonally am getting sick of everyone and their cousin making Tower Defence map. I don't care if you have one original idea for it, its still a freaking tower defence map. But of course my opinion alone doesnt mean crap so what do you all think?
10-06-2003, 10:06 PM#2
dataangel
Most TDs suck because they have nothing original. At all. People think, "MY TOWER DEF MAP WILL BE SUPER L33T BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PICK 24 RACES!!!" but really they just have a bunch of towers with different projectile models.

I started making a TD along time ago and it had some cool features. Towers that did damage with rain, towers that struck enemies with lightning and caused them to explode, tauren that automatically patrolled and laid goblin land mines, stacking towers, and towers that ate units. I have yet to see somebody do that stuff =)

I might go back and finish it someday, also including all the heroes from Battledome =D It'd be a ridiculous number of triggers, but it'd be pretty damn cool ^_^
10-06-2003, 10:11 PM#3
chemo
well dataangel i might have the pleasure to introduce such a td... as u see my sig the map is 2 weeks from its final touch, and i got some nice features like lightning :D and i make each tower stand out so its not some kind of changing name style :D

btw this map has taken me 8 months to make, so u better like it :D
10-06-2003, 11:25 PM#4
Plasma[Blade]
I agree, the first TDs out were the best, mostly because they were original, and even Zoator's was good back in the day. However, most of the TD maps these days are absolutely terrible, because, like you said, nothing original at all. I've tried making a tower defense a VERY long time ago which introduced 8 different races, each with unique towers that each do something different, so one race would have the weakest towers in the terms of damage, but super-fast attack power...

But seriously, mass Tower Defense maps are getting insane. I sometimes hope for a Tower Defense map filter, although it'd be next to impossible.

*sigh* oh well...
10-07-2003, 12:56 AM#5
Zachary_Shadow
Some Td's rock, some suck, that is all there is to say. An original idea, great concept, nice terrain and most of all, good balance and towers, is what is needed.

TD's are fun, and I'll keep playing them :) Just takes alot now to impress me
10-07-2003, 12:59 AM#6
ULTIMA_WEAPON_
Tower defence maps aren't all bad.. Wintermaul was the most popular one on RoC. Then came like 15 more mauls! Like Simpson Maul, Twilight Maul (My fav), Family Guy Maul, Final Fantasy Maul, the laundry list goes on:ggani:
10-07-2003, 01:11 AM#7
piRo-piOn
ya my frozen dreams td was in it final stages when my computer broke and i lost all interest... if i can finish my shattered alliance map maybe ill make FDtd again. and ya tds suck because people are stupid the sole reason for all that is bad is stupidity.
10-07-2003, 02:30 AM#8
Zwan
I like em. It sucks having to wade through 20 to find a good one, but I still enjoy a good one. It's just too bad the replay value is so low. I tend to burn through them quickly.
10-07-2003, 05:21 AM#9
Dragon
I hate tds where...

A. The front people get all the cash

or

B. Where 1 or 2 guys will dominate because they got lucky in the begining or mazed just right or something
10-07-2003, 05:08 PM#10
ABM
True a lot of TD are not at all original, True some of them have little interest, True most of them are not balanced MegaKillAnythingTower, First Row get the monster Back Row leave the game frustrated, I Agree but still it WAS an very original idea and Still I think the potential of TD isn't Over because most of them are just copy....

So U want originality, them everyone tell how u want a TD to Be, What u wana see, tell everything u would like, and i u don't like TD at all whatever it is made of, whatever good thing could be in, then just say u don't like everyone is free to like or dislike.....

What i Wana say is chemo if u wana beta test let me In , I love TD, i am making one too, i have lot of original idea but my little brain can compete with all yours so if u have idea or if u wana see things in a td just say it on this thread so everyone can listen to u and maybe sooner or later u will find the TD of your Dream...
10-07-2003, 05:37 PM#11
35263526
On the subject of un-origional TDs, have you ever been on one of those Wintermaul rips where at the end credits it still says Wintermaul made by Duke Wintermaul. I just wanted to laugh.

TDs, I hate 'em. Please, no more (although the brand new Ocean Tides TD is good, but not on B.NET. I play it on my LAN where I know that the players won't be dipsh*ts who claim to be 'TeH L33TeST!')
10-09-2003, 10:08 AM#12
AllPainful
Me personally, I love TDs... Unfortunatly finding a GOOD one is hard, But I agree with 35263526 Ocean Tides TD is good, and the author is constantly working on it trying to make it better.

I also agree with 35263526 on another point, I only play TDs on my LAN as well, not on Bnet.

On another note, a few people commented on "The players in the back getting less gold" thats one reason why I play on LAN instead of Bnet, because the player in the back plays as the "Last line of defense" and the other players (at least when I play on a LAN with people I know) all share their gold with the person who is getting the fewest kills.
10-09-2003, 02:34 PM#13
Ant
The problems with Many Unfun TDs:

ONE -- You'll never get to the end. It's too long. And if you do you'll probably get killed by some wierd boss and not want to play the map and waste your precious two hours again.

TWO -- It's all about a good start. You start off on a bad note, you don't get money, you never will. Then when you start leaking they start accusing you and stuff, and why should you stay then? Then you leave and they call you a loser or something

THREE -- No replay value

FOUR -- No replay value

Oops did I repeat point three?
Let's take two TDs, JuanTD and AmalTD. Most often, if you've seen Juan, you've seen Amal (hehe I took that one from Reader's digest). They're the say screwy thing.

Then there are good TDs. Those which you actually want to play. One of them is SkiBi TD, with replayability since Mini-games change the whole outcome. Then there's Ocean Tides that's just well... entertaining.

TDs are TDs. It just depends whether it's new or already seen.
10-09-2003, 06:27 PM#14
ObsidianTitan
Im not really for or against tds, i rarely play tds and when i do its one ive played before so i know it dosent completly suck. (average of about once a week, and not any where it goes threw people to get to the next person.)

What i find ignoying is that the better though threw tds never get played, its alwasy build this one tower or these towers in this order and everything dies type of thing.

The only realson i realy play tds is sometimes its fun just to watch things die.
10-09-2003, 08:51 PM#15
Vilex
Only some TD's trip my trigger... like such as Skibi's... that TD is a great TD mainly cause the person who made it did somthing new... that no mapper has done yet... i am talking about the mini games and the concept of the map, the layout