Pantokrator Footman Wars - Old Thread

Greetings.

Here's the latest (and pretty much finished) version of the Pantokrator Footman Wars map. I wrote and created the map from scratch with four new races with four new heros each.

Footman Wars is a game where you compete as a team against other teams' heroes, while your standard units are generated for you as time passes. Destroy your enemies' town halls to win.

Features:

• Made from scratch
• Four new races with four new heros each.
• Rally points work for spawned units
• Dialog box race and range selection before the game begins
• Computer players give control of their units to their allies
• Players that leave the game give control of their units to their allies
• Custom upgrades (including rate of spawn) and items
• Free gift system promotes the use of some items to spice up gameplay
• Both ranged and melee units balanced and in the same map
• No lag when heros are summoned
• Cohesive and complete "feel" for all races

A couple important things to know about this game:

• Rally points work for spawned units. I haven't encountered this for any other Footman Wars map to date, and I think it's a really invaluable skill for micromanaging your developing armies. Just as you can get skilled at automating your base in melee Warcraft, so can you control your base structure, remote armies, your hero, and your deployment in this map. Being capable of doing that is a decided advantage for skilled players.
• Computer players and players that leave during the game are not lost. They give control of their units to remaining allies. While this requires more micromanagement for the remaining players, it also gives you unified control of more units, which can be an advantage. Furthermore, you can get a full house a little easier by fleshing out a couple teams with a computer player. You can make a 2v2v2v2 game much more interesting by adding a computer to each team. The "difficulty" level of the computers does not change their behavior in-game. Note: If a player is controlling a computer army or the army of a left-player, the only structure that the enemies need to destroy is that of the remaining player.

Recent Fixes:

• Balance fixes
• Race-specific towers
• Bug-free dialog race and range selection system
• Uses the new 1.13 buff editor, thus removing several inserted files and reducing the file size.

Download
Pantokrator Footman Wars.w3x - 845kb
pantokratorfootmanwars.zip - 826kb

Download a replay from a game played on the 4-4-2004 1.14b version of this map.
http://panto.wc3campaigns.com/footmanwars/pfw114a.w3g

Here's a screenshot. I'm playing with one computer and one putz who left during the map load. I'm playing against three humans on the other team who didn't coordinate their forces particularly well. The heros on my team are the Satyr Druid, the Liche, and the Witch.

For most of this game, I had all three townhalls' rally points on the druid, so reinforcements were steadily joining the battle. Also, I researched the increased spawn rate upgrades (expensive, but worthwhile). With numbers superiority, it was a pretty quick game.

EDIT: More screenshots added as per (sort of) request. Two of these are from the released version of the map for 1.14b and two from an earlier almost-released test game.

EDIT: Screenshots moved to the appropriate new subforum thread.

Here's a shot of the map, the minimap, and the minimap preview. It's arranged to be geometrically identical for each team, and the players load into each team one by one, instead of filling up the first team, then the second team, etc.

the screen shots arent working on my computer so u might want try to fix that but it sounds cool


Hey cool ur from wisconsin too

I gather there was something wrong with the server this afternoon, but everything seems to be loading smoothly now.

wow. ima big fan of you panto,but who you gonna edit dll's for the ppls comps so they could choose their race?

I'm afraid I don't understand, Immelman. The players can choose their races in the game creation screen. I'm not planning to manipulate .dll's for anything that they can already do.

Also, since this is a map and not a mod, there is a limited number of things that I can alter and insert to change the game.

Here's information about the heros for each of the four races. This will be a somewhat long post.

Satyr heroes Arach heroes Undead heroes Elf heroes

Again I have to say Panto, You are the best. Another three tumbs up just for you. :D :foot: :infth: Keep the maps coming ;)

Here's a shot of the base "footie" units for each race, both melee and ranged.
Stats for the footmen coming soon.

how about this feature :: every time a player leaves, it rearranges the teams so its even.

No thanks. That would be confusing as heck to the players, as people on their team change frequently over the course of the game. Furthermore, if a person leaves from an evenly-matched game, there's absolutely no way to rearrange it to make it fair.

With the current system, where players who leave give unit control to their allies, I think it's got the best response to a leaving player. In some cases, depending on the remaining player(s), this may be an advantage, as they can start to concentrate their firepower where they want as a unified force.

I think you should change the icon for the "Fog" ability from "Tornado" to "Horn of Fog".

I think it would fit. I'm currently using that for a fog ability in a map i'm working on, but i dont care. I think it would fit even better with a satyr.

Also I don't like the name "Wierd" for the Flayer's ability, just doesen't sound good to me.

The rest is great keep up the good work.

Very gj Panto.
Nice new races and options etc. If you wanted to further improve upon this great map you may want to add some of the features I've included in my Footman war, most likely the victory conditions (king of the hill, capture the flag etc). They would add quite a lot to your map.
Also another idea, one I havent implimented yet for my one (doubt I ever will) is a "restart" option for victory modes where a single team wins. Eq team one collects the set amount of flags so they win, and the game restarts again, saving rehosting, and allowing the players to perhaps play with a diff victory condition, hero etc.

Btw if you want an unprotected version of my fmw pm me, otherwise you can find it in the completed maps section of the map development forum.

I was thinking about what you were saying, zotax, and I've played and enjoyed U)Footie Wars, but I don't think I'm going to add options for the win conditions.

The primary reason that I have for this is that I want the game to be something that people can practice at for the purposes of micromanagement and battle tactics. For this reason, I want players to be able to start playing immediately at the beginning of the map, so I don't want to have a dialogue box. Also, I don't want players wondering which objective they're going to have to go for before the map starts.

Although I can imagine the modifications to my triggers to add something like a kill-count win condition, if I'm going to pick just one, I think it's using the best win condition right now. Thanks for your insight. I'm a big fan of your map.