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Tomes for non-heroes

11-27-2003, 07:21 AM#1
Xaran Alamas
This map solves the problem of the game crashing if non-heroes with an inventory allowing them to use items were to pick up an item manipulating hero attributes. More instructions inside.
Edit: weaaddar has posted a better version below
11-27-2003, 05:45 PM#2
weaaddar
I fixed your map. heres a more useful version where your footy acts like a packmule for tomes he can't equip.
11-27-2003, 07:24 PM#3
weaaddar
IT seemed rather useless for you to just waste the tome on your unit which can't use.

I mean if I accidently clicked on the tome with my Non Hero Unit instead of my hero unit I would of wasted a tome, here I just wasted a slot of inventory.

I just called it a fix, because i thought it was an oversight, not an intended feature.

Anyway its open source, if you place it in the Repository, I didn't even take credit for editing it. I didn't close the map I just did some minor tweaks and reuploaded.
11-27-2003, 09:24 PM#4
weaaddar
You still deprive them of the item, if your footy picks it up they can't get it either.

I'm looking at away to get rid of your MAX level trigger as thats just kind of unneccesary if I can figure it out.
11-28-2003, 06:32 AM#5
Xaran Alamas
Yeah I see where you're coming from now with the Tome thing it is a bit of a waste for it just to go up in smoke. I'm going to delete my version on the first page as yours is better and I will put you as a co-author in the map author bit :)

Also the reason for the max level thing is if I give an experience increasing item to a hero who is at the max level it causes bad crashiness cause it drops a tome which gives XP which if a unit picks it up... unfourtunately I don't know of any trigger like Get Max Hero Level so this method seemed the best. But if you can find another way It would be much appreciated, this method is actually from the testmap for my mod Forsaken Destiny and I'm putting this feature in that mod but thought I'd share it :)

Edit: Cause this wouldn't be a problem if people couldn't change the max hero level in the WE :ggani:
Edit2: Removed my posts where I was "flaming" you, sorry about that weaaddar
11-28-2003, 12:43 PM#6
Xaran Alamas
Hehe I've fixed YOUR version now lol

Your version had the problem that if a hero's inventory was full he couldn't pick up tomes now this new version detects if it isn't a hero who picked up the tome and creates a duplicate on the ground. The bad thing about this is no units carry tomes for heroes :-/ though that would be possible with more triggering and a third duplicate of the tome :-/
11-28-2003, 05:15 PM#7
weaaddar
Well Ironically this requires less triggering but hey you are right about needing a 3rd version of every item.
This version now only needs 3 triggers (may need your Fake tome of XP haven't checked).
Okay so it looks a bit goofy when a unit drops a tome, but its a lose I'm willing to take.
11-29-2003, 07:34 AM#8
Xaran Alamas
I haven't tested it in-game yet but it looks from the code to be very well setup, can't believe I didn't think of an array before...

Oh and sorry if I haven't seemed thankful for all the help you've been with trying to get this to work so I'll say it now :) thanks :D

Also put your name along with mine in the map we're both working on it so we both deserve credit :)
11-29-2003, 08:33 PM#9
weaaddar
Its your idea really. I just added some know how. If you want edit the map and add my name, I would of never thought of it without your idea.
11-30-2003, 07:31 AM#10
Xaran Alamas
Ah well I'll credit you somehow as you did help a lot but thanks for saying that :)

Waitaminute I just thought, what if the version of the tome carried by the unit has a special ability on it which targets player owned heroes and then have a trigger detect when a unit casts that ability give the hero the version which actually has an effect? That way you could "give" the tome to a hero regardless of whether he has inventory space or not.
11-30-2003, 08:55 AM#11
Earth Fury
emote_sweat .... just emote_sweat..... (btw: im aposed to tomes in non mele maps in ALL ways, so i dun like dis map :P)
11-30-2003, 02:46 PM#12
weaaddar
your saying that I make it like a castable spell, then when you click it on a hero it would give him the tome he should recieve? Its complicated but could work.

Earth-Fury: Tomes don't have to be your store bought broken item in an AOS or Hero Arena. They could very well be a nice reward you find behind a rock or in a treasure trove after a boss's dungeon.
11-30-2003, 05:10 PM#13
Xaran Alamas
Yeah essentially.
11-30-2003, 09:56 PM#14
weaaddar
I don't think you can make a castable targetting item spell. I just tried giving my tomes a modified storm bolt and it didn't work.

Unless you know you can prove it otherwise.

Sorry my head was somewhere else when writing this.
11-30-2003, 10:08 PM#15
Xaran Alamas
how do you mean castable icon spell? emote_confused