Can Someone give me a reason for the banning of Woverine!?

Ok, now I, and wolverine for that matter, would like some good hard evidence leading to Wolverine being banned. Now I am not going to name any names, but I would really like to see some links to some posts, or some reasons, why our MAIN TEXTURER was banned from the site without any notice.

Most likely, it was a very large overreaction, with someone abusing their mod powers to get rid of a long standing hatred, or because maybe some other members of the community complained-- I can think of a couple people making threads for this reason just because they maybe didnt get what they wanted (entrance into Realm Designs).

Now dont give me any stupid reasons like " He was mean!" or any other empty accusations of the sort. It is almost universely known around the sites, that his critiques are very true, and his rigid guidelines turned Realm Designs into one of the most prestigious, and productive projects hosted here on Warcraft 3 Campaigns.

There was an earlier incident in which Wolverine was almost forced to leave, but then after a discussion with some on the Admins here, was free and clear to continue working on our project. What happened to that?

Now for those responsible, I would please like you explain your actions, and reconsider the ban. Furthermore, I know plenty of childish mods here sometimes delete posts like these, but hopefully they will grow up and do their job correctly.

I'm no dedicated reader of every affair and dispute here, but the gist of it seems to be:
-Wolverine was once known as Maverick2000 and really annoyed people on the forum\site.
-Mav was then banned. Over time, Wolverine appeared and did quality work for projects like Realm Design's Dawn of Chaos WC1 Mod.
-Recently, Wolverine revealed he was once Maverick, annoying several of the staff. He allegedly was like his annoying ways again and was then banned again.

If anyone wants to correct me, please do so.

Are you sure about that? I'm not to be honest, buuuut as far as I see: it's been a big group effort on the whole team's part.

I agree with you that it was the team's effort, but I can assure you that he the pickiest member, and because of this had made quality textures, that make up the majority of the mods work so far. There are plenty of modelers, terrainer, and other skinners, but almost every model has been textured by his own self.

And again, you say that he began to act like before, but yet I see no links to these happenings.

Mav's just a pompus *ss, nuff said.

ya, why don't you read my post before posting worthless responses that don't help anything. How about you give me some links that make him worthy of being banned instead of blatant responses. So no, not 'nuff said...

i agree with u sturm i liked Wolverine but whateva he was banned for it must of been for a good reason.

though i dont know what he did.

thanks you for agreeing with me, and I am really trying to find out if its a good reason or not, probably isnt, but then again, I dont know the whole story.

I want to know why our lead texturer was banned when I dont see anything that he does that is worthy of being banned

He's gone, get over it, sh*t

I just want to voice my opinion. I've been wondering about where Wolverine has been and why he now bears the title "Banned until the Universe Collapses".

Indeed, I like him very much. He is an inspiration to me. If you were to follow his involvements, you'd find he is quite productive and very dedicated to moding WarCraft III. Do any of you remember "Wolverine's Workshop"? It was the first point store (which even got stickied) in the Artist Request section. His work on the Realm Design team has been most enjoyable to see progress.

And now, suddenly, he is so great a criminal that he needs to be "Banned until the Universe Collapses"?! His wrong doings, if he indeed has done something, must be made known to the public. If there is just cause it must be made known or protesting outcrys like this will ring clearly in the days to come.

But, I feel it is very strange, that as soon as I hear Wolverine was once Maverick, suddenly the world turns upon him. Was he not a productive and engaging member of the forums before we knew him to be formerly Maverick? Yes, indeed he was. What has changed since we discovered it was him all along? I say, nothing.

And, if indeed, Wolverine is to remain banned because of hasty, thoughtless actions, whose motives were personal and spiteful, then I bid you: Ban me as well. For I will not suffer the company of such trechery.

I come here to share in the company of those who also MOD WarCraft III. Wolverine is one of my companions. If he has done no wrong, then welcome him back. But, if he indeed has performed some foul deed of evil, then let him remain banned.

The reason must be disclosed forthwith

Wolverine's Banned !?
What in the name of Toki Mishima !?emote_sweat
When did that happen ?

i think that it was done by old hatings - but yet if they had never discovered he was maverick, they never would have done this, and i agree here with the realm design leaving, he was their lead texturer, and he was one of the best skinners on this site that i had seen, and if he did do something wrong to cause a banning, show the topic\post, and if there is no reason, he should be unbanned.


EDIT: http://www.wc3campaigns.com/forums/s...earchid=105638 search threw the posts of that, it is all of maverick2000's posts, i am yet to search any of the posts, but i found a post by maverick2000, decided to find out what he did wrong.

I personally don't know why he was banned from the forums however he was banned from IRC for flaming everyone in the room. He was maverick2000 and maverick was banned for a good reason, he decieved everyone when he came back as wolverine though I dont see any problem with him being here.

Well, the MAJOR problem is that everyone here is biased. Everyone seems to be very judgemental without knowing the whole situation. if you don't know to a full extent on what is going on, please do not try to post any witty remarks and don't flame anyone.

As the one who invoked the ban, I would like to explain (in a public place) why it was done.

This is from a thread in the Staff Discussion forum.



In response to Magic's questioning of the prudence of the closed-mindedness of the ban:


To elaborate on this, I'll try to give a brief history of Maverick2000. He originally was making skins for WC3 when we were first figuring out the process. He was very disrespectful to other artists and their work. Eventually, people started accusing him of copying and pasting to make parts of his skins (not something I object to, but it was seen as very low back then, for some reason). Maverick denied all of this, though it was fairly obvious that he was doing it. He started initiating flame wars, and continued his disrespect for other artists' work. At that point, he was banned. After this, he was unbanned and rebanned many times, and for various reasons. He made apologies, yet when let back, he had not improved. Another of his offenses was joining the IRC server drunk, and PMing people with insults and spamming in the channels.

Relatively recently, he started coming back using proxies (an Apache ban was invoked on his IP, this is how desperately we wanted him gone). One of his new aliases was 'Wolverine.' It is believe that he adopted this new identity to join a skinning contest that was being held. Only a few people knew this was Maverick. He became involved in Realm Design, though I'm not sure of the specifics of that. He was getting used to staying 'under cover.' He shed his old typing habits, which can still be seen in Wolverine's old posts, and began using correct punctuation and grammar. He also became a super moderator, though none of the directors know how this happened.

After a while, the one of the directors was notified that Wolverine was, in fact, Maverick2000, this community's number one enemy. We, of course strived to verify this, which we did, by searching through PMs and noticing that he used the same password as a user called 'Prox Eye,' which had the same email address as Maverick (it's kind of stupid to use your real email address when you are trying to disguise yourself with a proxy). This is also when we discovered that he was a super moderator for no known reason, most likely a mistake. Our only action then was to remove his super moderator privileges. We were hoping he would continue to play nicely, but some of us could not stand Maverick being a super moderator, and, as I explained, it was probably a mistake that he was made super moderator at all. I think that after he lost these, he did not see a use in keeping his identity hidden. You will notice that he even resumed his incorrect punctuation and grammar.

Then, Wolverine revealed that he was Maverick in a forum post. It seems that most of you believe that he was banned over old grudges in response to this, which is incorrect. If this was true, he would have been banned after we conducted the investigation, which was a few weeks before. His banning came in two stages, the first from the IRC server, then from the forums. I came into our IRC channel one day, to hear that Wolverine had showed up drunk, acting how he usually does under these conditions. He hadn't been on IRC as Wolverine before because it is harder to disguise your host, which any former admin or director would recognize as *.dial.bluewin.ch (this actually includes a fair number of people from Switzerland, but he is the only one we know of that has it). I akilled him on the server (essentially a server-wide ban), but did not ban him from the forums. The akill was removed for a short time, and I came back to see that Wolverine was online. I learned here that Wolverine was nothing but annoying, even when sober. The akill was replaced. After this, I began hearing complaints of Wolverine flaming on the forums. This would not have been grounds for such a conclusive ban in other cases, but since it was Maverick, I recognized it as the reemergence of his old ways, and expected it would only get worse. It was then that I banned Wolverine on the forums, not any time before. I made his title "banned until the universe collapses!" in hopes that people would get the point that he should not be unbanned, after so many failures to right his ways.

As for Realm Design, I would be very sorry to see you leave. I understand that Challis has left, presumably because of Wolverine being banned, and hopefully he can be persuaded into returning. There are a few solutions to the loss of your skinner. One would be to continue to working with him using AIM, MSN Messenger, or some other chat utility. Another would be to recruit a new skinner, as there are many good ones here at WC3C, and I am sure most would be honored to join such a great team. I regret that he had to be banned, we though he had improved as Wolverine, but he did not, and we simply can not have someone of his nature in our community.

NOTE: I unlocked this thread so those truly concerned with the Wolverine issue (primarily Realm Design) could post questions or comments about it, not so that everyone could throw their little bit in. Only post if there is a use to it.