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Bear Form ability problem

12-13-2003, 10:49 AM#1
ferda
I need to give to one unit 5 abilities based on bear form (Shapeshifter). But if I give to unit more than one "bear form based skill" it does not work. Thanks for help.
12-13-2003, 10:56 AM#2
Evil-Tormenter
Try using Metamorphosis instead. I know there is a way to make it definitive (the metamorphosis never ends). Don't forget to remove all the bonuses.
12-13-2003, 10:56 AM#3
FerretDruid
It just won't work :(

Can't have 2 abilities on a hero that are based from the same ability (the only exceptions are certain stackable item ability effects, which makes sense since they are supposed to stack!). Anyway... I have a suggestion for you (since I *love* chaos morphing so much). Make 5 COPIES of the hero, and create 5 dummy abilities that do nothing at all... And just make 5 Chaos abilities, one for each copy of the hero that you made (give them all different models - and different abilities if you want).

Use triggers to detect when the dummy spells are cast and Add the appropriate chaos ability to the hero. Try it and see if you can get one to work, and if you need help just ask.. There's a few details I left out but I'm sure you'll be able to figure them out.
12-15-2003, 08:08 PM#4
ferda
I do not know how to make that trigger.
12-15-2003, 08:42 PM#5
FerretDruid
Have you even tried to make the trigger? It isn't very complicated...

Unit starts the effect of an ability...

Ability being cast equal to <blahblah>

Add Chaos (Owlbear) to casting unit

Maybe create a special effect at the position of the unit... Whatever you'd like to do with it.

You need to make the chaos abilities yourself, I assume you have TFT... Just copy any of the existing Chaos abilities (under Orc in the Object Editor) and make a new one and include your unit in it, and repeat for every type of unit that you want to shift into - give them all a different name or editor suffix so you can easily tell them apart in the Unit editor and for triggers.

You basically want to copy the hero 5 times, give each copy a different model, and scaling value... Etc! But keep the abilties, proper names, and everything else the same.
12-20-2003, 10:25 AM#6
ferda
It is working. But when I select group of unit it morphs only the first. Also I need to give to this ability some cooldown time.
Description of my ability:
There are three units (Soul, Elven Ranger, Archer). Soul can morph to Elven Ranger and Archer. Elven Ranger can morph to Soul. Archer can morph to Soul.
12-20-2003, 11:16 AM#7
Captain Griffen
Different abilities don't cast even if they are based off the same spell...

If it is the same spell, well some abilities only one unit casts (most of them only cast once).
12-20-2003, 11:57 AM#8
Chryosmere
heh hmm let me edit this in a sec

can someone delete this post
12-23-2003, 04:10 PM#9
Thotal_Lhosaar
Why don't you use Storm Crow Form, Medivh's Crow Form, Stone Form and Ethereal Form for the 4 remaining abilities? There shouldn't be any problem with the fact that stone and crow form morphs the unit from air to ground and vice versa, because you should still be able to edit the 'morphing flags' (Is this the right expression? I don't know, because I have the German version) and the landing and starting times.