Multiple arrows + searing arrows

I know it works I have tried before but I tested now and multiple arrows (barrage) with searing arrows didnt work now. It doesnt use searing arrow, it only fires usual arrows in multiple points.

Any idea what makes the big difference between not working and working searing arrows?

Note: I mean ONE of the arrows will be searing not all...but none is now...

sooo Your char that has the skill has the art Searing arrow?? or barrage projectile art??? with the searing arrow

what u do, is change barrage missle art to searing arrows, and change searing arrows to a thing that increases damage.

That won't use mana with each attack though... Your problem might be that you don't have Searing Arrows in the "Default Active Ability?" I dunno. Sorry, I've never tried anything like this.

ill go try it later. might be something with buffs or effects.

Barrage and searing/cold/dark arrow cannot overlap. As soon as you activate the x-arrow ability, the unit uses those, ignoring the Barrage based ability. Likewise, if you give the archer a fire orb, let's say, they'll ignore Barrage.

Sorry. Seems to be one of those things that can't be.

Bilfspud, your wrong.

A unit CAN use searing arrows AND barrage/mulit-shot at the same time, but only ONE of the shots will be a searing arrow.

The problem is that the unit MUST learn searing arrows first, if he learns barrage first then searing arrows won't work (or is it the other way around) but anyway, it doesn't work if they are learned in the wrong order.

For more info, see my next post (have to post again because can't attach file via edit.)

This is a copy and paste post:


Here. This has 3 levels.

Level 1 - 3 Targets
Level 2 - 4 Targets
Level 3 - 5 Targets

In the attached map the hero is level 10 with no skill points spent, and is surounded by enemies, none of the enemies have attacks or special abilities, and they don't flee so they will just stand there while you shoot.

The hero has Searing arrows, Black arrows and Frost arrows and the multishot ability, and the only one that doesn't work with Multishot is Frost arrows.

Searing arrows and Black arrows will still only target 1 unit, but other "Multishot" projectiles will still be launched. This does NOT make Searing arrows or Black arrows target more than 1 unit.



Heres how the spell works:

1. The spell does the regular units damage plus whatever bonus damage is set in the spell to ALL targets (In this case 1 extra damage, setting bonus damage to zero causes problems so don't do it)

2. The Projectile art field can have multiple entries. In this version there are 3 different arts... You will notice this when the hero attacks. It randomly chooses one of the 3 projectile arts for each projectile fired.
NOTE: The number of "Arts" you have effects the number of targets!! SEE Target Math!!!!!
NOTE2: The projectile art field OVERRULES the projectile art of the unit that has the ability, even when only firing 1 shot.
NOTE3: You CAN (and may want to, see Target Math) have more than one of the same projectile art listed.

3. Maximum number of targets field.
NOTE:Sounds obvious, but doesn't work the way you would think! SEE Target Math!!!!!

4. Area of Effect = Range of the Multishots attack.
NOTE: This effects the units range EVEN if unit is only targeting 1 thing.

5. Max damage set to 0 (Which means unlimited) if its set to anything else it too can cuase problems because hero units damage changes as it levels up... So if you set this to say 100 and the hero does 75 damage a shot, then even if you have multishot set to shoot 4 shots, due to the damage limit the hero would only shoot 2 shots.


If you want to use the spell, the easiest way would be to export the Abilities in the attached map (DON'T Export everything, I modified 2 of the units, the wisp and the PotM.) and import it into your map and change the Fields mentioned above.

If you use it, I don't ask for credit for it, but I do ask that you don't claim you made it. It doesn't bother me not to get credit for something but it DOES bother me when someone claims credit for something they didn't do.

Target Math

The number of "Art - Projectile Art" entries in the object editor effects the number of targets. The minimum number of "Art - Projectile Art" entries you should use is 1. But for each additional "Art - Projectile Art" entry 1 extra target is allowed. So 3 arts in the "Art - Projectile Art" field = 2 extra attacks.

You must also consider the "Maximum Targets Allowed" field. It effects the number of target EXCLUDING the extra attacks granted by the "Art - Projectile Art".

So the formula for figuring number of targets is:
(# of projectile arts in field)-1+(# in maximum number of targets field)

So using the above formula, the follow is how the number of targets in my example map is figured:



In other words, think as the number of Arts as the BASE amount of attacks, and the set the maximum number of targets to adjust it for additional levels.

ON ANOTHER NOTE: this spell might be considered "Too Common". The reason is because I have put this EXACT reply to MANY boards asking about a multishot ability... So there might be alot of maps with this ability (although I have not come across one that I played that had it yet...)

Hunh. Pesky. Never tried doing it the other way; whenever I've created units with cool arrow tricks, I just gave them both Fire arrow and Barrage in the object editor, and they'd do one or the other, not both.

Well, the reason I know it is what order they learn it in is because of the "Hero Ability" version that is in the above post of mine.

If the hero tries to learn them in the wrong order it won't work, but if he/she learns them in the proper order it will work.

Because when your editing units they don't "Learn" them, it could be the problem, so perhaps start the unit with only searing arrows and add the barrage ability via triggers when the unit is spawned/bought/hired.

Ive already seen that testmap when I searched at it. Searing arrows worked and black and frozen DIDNT in your map. I tested learn searing arrows in different order and it never worked. And it worked in your map whatever order I took searing arrows in...

Can it be that I have cooldown to my searing arrows?

its always possible.

And black arrows DID work in my map, the only one that didn't was Frost arrows.

Here is 2 screenshots before and after learned multiple arrows, Im not an idiot like u think!!! Flaming Arrows ISNT USED when learned multiple arrows and if I press on the button and then a target it doesnt use a flaming arrow either!

PS. I know the map looks a little bit strange when orc attacks orc etc it is because I run it in testmode...

LOL

Sorry I always figure it out right after posting here...

I thought I tested to learn both ways but I didnt. I was 90% sure I did...
Here is what to do then: First learn multiple arrows then learn searing.

HERE IS A TRIGGER IM GONNA MAKE TO HELP U ALL WITH THIS PROBLEM (I SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANNA HELP OTHER PPL TOO):

I wont show the whole trigger because it will take too much time...

Make it so when the hero learns searing arrows it will set a variable(I call it *VARIABLE* here) to +1. Then make another trigger when learning barrage that removes the searing arrows-ability from the hero and adds *VARIABLE* skill points to the hero and then order the hero to learn searing arrows again *VARIABLE* times.

You: Thx, ur a god!!!!
Me: NP!

I must appologize.

I have seen you on the forums for a long time, and I KNOW your not an idiot and I in no way meant to insinuate that you were.

I knew there was a order you had to learn em in for it to work, just couldn't remember it.

So its Multi-Shot THEN Searing?

I will remember that.