Melee Map design needed - 250 points.

Hi

Sorry to post this again if someone saw a similar thread to this but I really need help on a new map design. As I said, Sunken ruins tileset, nice scenery and environment, for 12 players so its 3v3v3v3 (a team on each side together) with a good balance. I know how to make one but I just can't get it right don't know why, people who didn't even tried to help ended up with excuses such as " At least 400 points " when they only had around 40.

I know this is embaressing and I should make my own but I am not good at designing melee maps with nice terrain and doodads. I like it professionally like Blizzards. Well if you can't help don't just view this thread and leave becuause your useless to me (no hard feelings whether your browsing or your a guest).

Well it MUST be bigger than medium size of map. I need it as soon as possible and of course no spamming or talking off topic, like similar to this thread people posted nonsese replies. 250 points, that is a lot and its not easy to get so much, I'm not rich and I know there are alot of skilled map designers in wc3campaigns.

This is not the best place to requst but the forums do not have a right place so I will have to post it here (sorry). For the person who can do it will be on credit on my map and rewarded with 250 points.
Please do your best, I know I should to it myself But I... Nevermind sorry

If i wasnt a lazy bastard id help ya.. 250 pts is a lot. (BuMp) to help ya out!

Well, I figured I'd help ya out, I started this morning and have been gone for a little while, but here's what I got so far, just reply with ideas and/or comments like (this sucks!, or Looks awsome!) just please add a why with your answer so I may improve it :D
(plus, I did put a lot of detail in it... just can't see it from this view...

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Here is a closeup on the lake, I made it this morning

Here is a closeup on the Bandit camp
(has taver, goblin shop, and mercenary camp)
I just barely made it

Well since hes not replying.. ill just say..

looks great but, you need to think a little less square.. more natural :D

Here is a closeup on the ruins
I just made this after the Bandit Camp
(has fountain of life)

uhh cant see that last one you posted...

nm got it now

GOOD! Feedback, great. Yeah, thnx for pointing that out, I don't think I would've noticed, I'll fix that ASAP:D

Oh yeah, the starting areas I meant to be square, less of a pain in building, but if whats-his-face ( the guy who requested this) asks different, then I'll change it, but for now...

yeah yeah i know just trying to say some1 is noticing your work. I myself have terrained alot of good maps but never got together to make a big map.. :(

Ok, I made the lake less square, and tehn some :gsmile:

NIce waterfall but i myself dont do water like that...i make whole map water and use raise terrain so its not all clify, unfortuionatly u cant work around this now but apart from that it looks damn good.(think less square):D

Thats a good idea, but that would be too much raising... I didn't picture this map as having a lot of water, but I always like a bit of water, so I added the lake, and, does the lake still look square?

ya, actually u raise one spot and platue the rest of it, with the big brush yes it takes paticne but the payoff is worth it, no lake is not square AREA AROUND lake is square.

This may not be the best (Since I created it early in my career).