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02-20-2004, 02:35 AM#1
Jarsen
I got really bored because its my winter break, and to make a short story long, i stumbled across this forum and felt inspired by the sweet pics. So I did some sketching and photoshopping and pumped out two of my own today! They look kinda funny to me though so if anyone mind posting some helpful criticism it would be much appreciated
02-20-2004, 02:36 AM#2
Jarsen
Heres the second one. Sorry they're so big.
02-20-2004, 02:43 AM#3
Saboera
coloring is cool but ur lineart really need more work
02-20-2004, 02:46 AM#4
LightKirtar
Your muscles need to be a bit more realistic and your hands dont seem in very good positions. Your faces and expresions need quite a bit more work along with the stances.
02-20-2004, 03:40 AM#5
`deathlegionare
hands need work, lineart, and porpotions need to work.

don't use bevel and all that other filter and crap in photoshop on everything, it'll just ruin it.
02-20-2004, 03:51 AM#6
Jarsen
So in short, i need to learn to draw better, and screw the beveling stuff - practice, practice, practice. Alright can do! Since I'm gonna go practice drawing any other pointers would be helpful. Thanx for your critiquing =)
02-20-2004, 06:15 PM#7
nerf.fiends
Real great coloring.
02-20-2004, 07:26 PM#8
Jythonn
looks ok, coolerin looks good, dont like the pics that much tho, id say work on the fingers(which everyone knows is a bit hard) and try drawin from some dif angles
gj, keep it up
02-20-2004, 11:34 PM#9
icbm1987
Quote:
Originally posted by Jarsen
So in short, i need to learn to draw better, and screw the beveling stuff - practice, practice, practice. Alright can do! Since I'm gonna go practice drawing any other pointers would be helpful. Thanx for your critiquing =)


exactly!!!

you must learn to draw things so they look 3d without color... color and photoshop just enhance it.

icbm1987
02-20-2004, 11:57 PM#10
IgGyJiZzY
um try learning some basic perseption it helps alot but colors are cool kind of Bob ish lol
02-21-2004, 12:35 AM#11
Lour)HEAD
yes, the coloring is very good. however, you colored and enhanced it so much that it doesn't even look like a drawing anymore, just, pardon, something the digital cat drug in.

i would suggest:
A: Don't enchance so much! The key to a nice drawing is enchancing it with your pencil/pen/brush!
B: Think about the details. The Shade Seeker has a patch on his right leg, but how would he get a rip in the leg right there? Usually, when someone slides on pants a lot, the knees rip, and a patch at the knees would look like he had been doing to nice action poses. Just remember to think, "would this really be there?"
C: Get better at proportions and bodies. There is many a-site, a great one that i have used is "Figure Drawing Lab". Just search for that on google, or whatever search engine you use.
D: Use more texturing and shading. Once again, the computer can not adequetly come up with a very nice looking wrinkle, it can only make it look a little better. A way to improve on clothing shadows is easy, just put on an article of clothing and stand in the way your drawing intends to be. Examine the folds and wrinkles on the clothing, and try to recreate that. Eventually you will be able to imagine where a pleat will be.

Good luck, and I hope this helped.
02-21-2004, 08:39 AM#12
leppy
yea dont use filters to shade... do it yourself on photoshop preferably with the brush tool but dodge/burn works if you want to keep it simple. also if you got some anatomy charts to see how exactly people are built, you could make much more realistic looking art.
02-21-2004, 09:46 AM#13
erwtenpeller
whats with you people? that coloring is not grat at all... i just see a lot of premade textures, filter, dodge burn... u must be a skinner right?

loose the premade textures and dont overuse filters, they make it look crappy and too fake.
02-21-2004, 05:56 PM#14
LazarusX
Erwte is right - the coloring is not great and the use of texturing is bad.

Very few who use textures actaully no how to apply them (and make them wrap around the contours of something) - For textures - you must have good shading for the base and use the displacement filter to wrap a texture around it.

There are 3 main ways to color - the old fashion way - mixing different colors (requires a good sense of color), painting using the same color - just with layer properties (like multiply and screen), and the dodge/burn method. And of course you can mix those methods.

With the dodge/burn tool in Photoshop - there are 3 sub-methods: Shadows, Midtones, and Highlights. With the dodge tool - using midtone lightens an area to white, Highlight brightens it to shiny version of the original. Make sure to practice with the different modes - and mix and match to get different effects.

And don't use bevel - it's terrible on coloinr lineart - it' has to be done perfectly to pull it off well.
02-21-2004, 06:35 PM#15
Muoteck
You can also use Lighten/Daren RGB instead of dodge/burn. I nooticed that then you mix lighten RGB, dodge and burn you can get nice metallic effects.