AHHH!!! Trolls Suck!!

Trolls are by far the worst race by my viewing. They are severely handicapped by their 6 gold limit per worker run. Why is that so? :<

Dude if u want u can upgrade how much they carry

and that 1 hero will get u millons of gold, if u dident know

Hell yeah. Trolls are THE race that can get a huge income very fast with their pickpocket, merchant, harvest upgrades. Think before you whine!

Dre

So I HAVE to get the one hero in order to get some decent cash?

Nah, I agree with above. Snotling harvesting should be 8/10/12 with upgrades.

Plus (as I've mentioned) I think troll units are bland and uninteresting. Not my favourite race... not anyones I think.

Early game IS the most important part of the game. If you can't keep up the cash flow, or have to stop building workers to get an upgrade it cripples you. Maybe one option is letting a different unit harvest lumber, built from a seperate location.. or prehaps you just boost snotlings. I'll leave you with whatever tweaks (if any) you want to make, just in my view you cannot:

Say that trolls aren't at a disadvantage early game (where it counts)
Expect people to pick a particular hero (particularly a snotling merchant that can't fight for toffee)
Make people sacrifice precious time researching the economics boost early on when they need to build workers to get thier economy going.

P.S. Please make troll melee untis more varied (think about giving them some specailised abilities to give them a bit of variety... knockback, various stat lowering attack, standard abilities that more clearly define a units purpose).

P.P.S Despite all this, trolls do have the coolest basic melee (trapper) and the coolest transport (submerge).

I agree, trolls are very bland, well im off too play TToR too see if I can actually win a game with trolls, and not get owned in rush...

(i'm tythiam) Yeah i alrdy confronted dre with this and those were his answers. Having to use the merchant. But he said try other tactics, and i have. Using any other hero severely kills you and dre has no proof of otherwise. You are forced to wait to get up a third building and cannot pump out workers as you can with other races until after u wait about a minute of upgrading. If i am rushed during that minute its gg. Dre had been in the right by nerfing them but he nerfed them too severely. I'd like to see your build order with trolls dre not using merchant. I'd like to see you not having to wait in between stuff like other races. If you show me this i will back off. Otherwise buff the snotling by lowering cost to 100, speed up the upgrade, start them off with more or etc... This is rediculous; fix it.

Hah you really think trolls suck. Well you have to be experienced with them to use them. They are a very complicated race but if used right they can annihilate most other of the races attacks. It just takes some time to get used to the race.

I don't see any bad with the Trolls, they are my favorite race ^_^
well... the low gold income is a small problem yes, but when upgrade the gold income there's no problem with it, then the snotlings run so fast you only need like 3 on the gold mine.
aso, there is no bad race, only bad players. :>

I am willing to put money I can beat any troll player ten times in a row with wood elves.

Except I have none.

You get my point.

Whats with all these BS answers Rightfield? I want to see a replay with a BO where u have something being qued as quickly as the other races to show they can fight a good rush. The bad players remark was no help to the discussion; its called balancing. I nvr said they were bad(trolls are my favorite race because i love their identity). They are an awesome race, but like i said the hard start is a bad flaw to have for any race. It automatically makes me want to change to elves :< . And btw they are by far a tricky race to use. That's a bad excuse to say you have to be gosu to survive a rush. To sum it up i want a replay with a good BO that i am satisfied shows i am wrong. Then you win gg no re i'll shut up.

Amen, my brother.
All im asking is you make snotlings a bit more like regular workers. If this means removing speed bonus, by all means, go right ahead.

at the start u only need 3 workers to get your gold so u have two extra get 2 more then up the gold then ur lumber is faster too get the merchant for extreme gold (best hero in the game) then u have the ice bain guys that can have soo much health plus reincarnation and they hit air the trolls are the best in the game the reason for the lack of gold is so you cant go straight to these ultimate units and waste your opponent within 10 mins

Dude... when you upgrade the trolls they get uber speed.... 2 snotlings bring in just as much, if not more, then a regular 5 bunch (cept chaos)

1. you need lumber workers

2. sometimes theres a nasty bug with the snotlings upgraded speed which reduces it

Ive never had that bug happen to me