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my art school entry-day entry!! C&C needed bad!!

03-23-2004, 10:18 PM#1
erwtenpeller
okay this thing needs to be PERFECT!!

becouse i need to get into that art school and they are very strict.. must allow mistakes!!

okay the assighnment was to make something veryu personal, combining things you love and things that interest you etc. etc...
the following things MUST be in it at all times:
1 your favorite place:
can be seen as the background... these are the windy dunes of Vlieland, where i spent my summers...
2 favorite possession:
dude... i cant believe your tablet isnt in there!! .. yeah well, i figured i make it with my tablet.. so.. but my chair is in there, and some other fav stuffs buzzing around my head in that tornado!
3 favorite text
thats the lines that partually form the rornado, it says:
there where too many of us, we had acces to to much money and equipment... and little by little we went INSANE...
4 favorite work of art
the one i just produced...
5 favorite street sighn
i had bo idea what to picture with that, so i just put in there a 'rotondebord'
^^~! i love those!! ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND!!

also the 'rotondebord' is a nice adding to the spinning. this work is supposed to 'reflect' my caotic lifestyle, everything just buzzes around me like i have no control over it...

i really need some GOOD critisizm on this one... dont hold back, mention ANYTHING that pops to mind!!

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note that the tornado spins in the opposite direction from the sighn.. i need to fix that ^^~!

i also need to tweak the contrast of the flying objects a bit, and town down the brightness of the drawn char...
03-23-2004, 10:21 PM#2
Shadow_Strike
mario? lol, and what brand o beer is that?

for a second i thought the speakers were pumpin those waves into the ground causing those spins and stuff...
03-23-2004, 10:37 PM#3
Phreaker0
I hate to say it erwt but thats not your best work, better than what I can do but I've seen better from you. But I'm sure the art school to which you are applying will recongnize your potential and skill, best of luck. -Peace ez
03-23-2004, 10:51 PM#4
Count_Carigon
his right leg (on our left) looks odd, like the foot is out of place, i do have to say that it isnt my favorite thing by you, though i tend to like completely origional works, not collages.

Is it supposed to be a collage?

Personally, i think a completely hand drawn piece would look a little better

[EDIT: how long do you have untill its due to the school?]
03-24-2004, 01:44 AM#5
LegnaKrad
Hmm.. I like the idea. Looks pretty nice overall, BUT.. there's some things.. Like Count said, that leg looks a little odd; it may be the size and positioning of the foot. Also, some of the things in the tornado look like they're just sitting there motionless. Finally, the hand that's on the same side as the funky foot (our left, his right) doesn't look like its gripping the arm of the chair, if that's what you were going for. It kinda looks like he's making a half-fist on top of the chair. All i could think of to fix that would to make it seem like the hand is wrapping around the arm of the chair. And i think that's it. I hope that helped somewhat. Good luck on getting in!
03-24-2004, 02:09 AM#6
Jacinthe
Very cool collage, though I'm not entirely a fan of collages in general, either. Did whomever gave the assignment say collages were a good idea? For some artists, I could see that, but you're an excellent illustrator and this doesn't really highlight your innate strengths (in my opinion).

Because of that, there isn't much else in the way of feedback I feel I can provide. >.< But it is a cool piece. =)
03-24-2004, 03:30 AM#7
`deathlegionare
one problem i see in the picture.

the object's lighting doesn't fit the the background.

what about try drawing the whole thing yourself and coloring it, unless they want it like that.
03-24-2004, 03:52 AM#8
Xmetallium
I second Jac's idea...and on top of that, from my experiences from Art collages....they don't appreciate comic art (yeah, they bolded the text in the animation portfolio NO COMIC ART). Something that's hand illustrated and stuff would do fine...hang on...I'll bust my scanner out and give you what I mean.

It can be a design of sorts, no? Does it say it has to be photoshopped? I'm thinking objects rendered realistically is what I have in mind...yeah...like so...

A still life I did a couple years back.

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Something of this sort, because it tests your drawing skills...rendering...perspective...etc etc. Yeah...great entry stuff would be human life drawings (directly from the nude, not from pictures. Or somebody wearing a tight body or swimsuit would do). The best would be a scene pic with a person in the middle (and then with all your stuff and crap), because it has everything in it (perspective, render, pencil skills, life drawing...).

Yeah so those are my two long cents.
03-24-2004, 04:42 AM#9
leppy
my crits:

if they asked for a collage, then its fine, but if they didnt say anything about it then i'd definitely reccomend drawing it all. but it depends on if they are going for more of graphic design or traditional art)

the black text is hard to read

is "acces" supposed to be "access"?

do they like cartoony-ness? because you dont show any realistic art here, and that might be helpful to have... the cartoony guy is ok, but having a realistic person would probably look nicer, as long as it doesnt cramp your style. maybe a realistic, detailed sketch of the backround? (i think most colleges appreciate realistic fine art more than anything else)
03-24-2004, 10:19 AM#10
erwtenpeller
the letter said that i should use any means nescesary to express myself... and so i made this, it kind of mirrors my life in a way... i dont think i have the time to fix it, cuz i still have to complete my portfolio AND make some scetches about the 5 subjects alone... i had a talk with my arts teacher and she recomended to keep this, but make something for each subject seporate, nothing big, but SOMETHING... scetchy... and maybe more real.. but i really dont have that..

she also said that i should really show my strong points in the scetches, wich is basically figure drawing... i'm, pretty sure i can draw just about anything as long as it doesnt involve paint >.<

allthough... i highly specialize in comic style... but i have a big variation of comic style drawings, some are allmost realistic..

i think i dont really have a chice but to keep it this way, my entry day is friday and i still have a dutch debate and a physics test coming tomorrow... so time is not my friend right now... DAMN... i hate school...

i'll maybe just tweak it ba little more, add some shadows, fiddle with contrast and colors...that sorta thing..

i'll let you all know how it went.. saturday, then i'll be back...

the greatest thing that i need to do, is motivate myself, WHY do i think this is the education for me? WHAT exaclty do you hope to accieve by following this education... that sorta thing...>.<

just looked over the papers again, to be certain, but it sais right here that comic art is REQUIRED for illustration ^_^
03-24-2004, 12:10 PM#11
kimchi man
to be brutaliy honest with you I think you scrap that first pic and should make one from scratch completely hand drawn. Even for a design/collage pic it's not working, maybe if you change the color of the fonts and made the character more realistic to match with the scene..... It looks like its quickly slapped on with photoshop.. comon man you can do better. I don't know the cartoon look of the character and photo background is not working. cartoon character on photo background makes things look cheesy. Im just giving some brutal crits because i really want you to get in that college, so don't take anything too personally.

One thing I learned from art teachers is that they really favor realism.I showed my art teacher some crazy detailed robots and characters from my sketch book, and she wasn't really impressed, but when i showed her a simple still life drawing of books on a table shes impressed.

Still lifes, lifedrawing etc.... It doesn't have to be a freakin masterpiece, but some still lifes will do. They want to see that you have observing skills. Even animators that draw cartoony stuff need still lifes and life drawings in there portfolio. Lifedrawing is really not that hard, all it is is correct proportions and correct values.

If you have to make something in color I have some tips ( or shortcuts 0_0)that might help you. The easiest and fastest way to make harmonizing colors. Use an anagolus color scheme. Anagolus is kind of like monochromatic( same colors) but different. It uses one color and it's neighbors, almost like monochromatic. For example You use Orange as a dominating color , Orange red , and Orange Yellow for your whole painting. It really harmonizes and gives a mood. All you have to worry about is the values ( light and dark)
It's easier than it sounds.
03-25-2004, 01:28 AM#12
leppy
i'm gonna have to agree with everything kimchi said. but i dont know what the exact criteria are for this piece... if comic art is required, then it might be ok, but nothing really stands out to me as much as your other stuff does. :\
03-25-2004, 01:39 AM#13
Count_Carigon
I think my issue with it is that it looks like something i could do... and you're way better than that.
03-25-2004, 02:35 AM#14
AlexBS
yes, the cartonny doesnt fit with the rest, as others have said. is this going to be in belgian or english? if its english its 'were', not 'where'. also, the tornado lines dont seem to form a cohesive whole, if you follow the end of one section it doesnt link up with the start of the next.
03-26-2004, 02:45 AM#15
Phreaker0
Once again I state before I don't think this is your best work, and I can agree with what kimchi said, my sister is applying for art college and although she has a talent in cartoony/semi-real when people have reviewed her portfolio they have concentrated more on her still lifes and her realeastic paintings.