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How many of you use VB?

03-29-2004, 06:25 PM#1
Demon-Reaper
How many of you use Visual Basic? I really wanna know. Also if you read this and now what Stonned Stupid uses please tell me
03-29-2004, 06:52 PM#2
PitzerMike
I personally use VB simply for the ease of use. Doing stuff with C++ is more efficient of course but well, I'm not like developing a huge software project - for my little programs its just fine.

StonedStoopid uses Delphi which is pretty much the same, also Starcraftfreak does.

Pretty many use VB though (BlackDick, Ghostwar for his map utilities...)

And we also got some C++ programmers (TheProphet, Zepir)
03-29-2004, 06:58 PM#3
Demon-Reaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by PitzerMike
StonedStoopid uses Delphi which is pretty much the same, also Starcraftfreak does.
Where can I get 'Delphi'?
03-29-2004, 08:38 PM#4
PitzerMike
Quote:
Originally Posted by //GriM_Reaper\\
Where can I get 'Delphi'?

Maybe buy it?
03-29-2004, 10:43 PM#5
Vexorian
Maybe google for a trial version?

Anyways you mispelled StonedStoopid's name
and VB is ok, Image Extractor was made in VB.

I think it is not that much about what language a program was made, it is more about what the program does.
03-30-2004, 05:43 AM#6
Demon-Reaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by PitzerMike
Maybe buy it?
from where?
03-30-2004, 06:33 AM#7
PitzerMike
Quote:
Originally Posted by //GriM_Reaper\\
from where?

Normally one would visit www.amazon.com do a quick search there and buy it there...

The latest version is Delphi 8, but if you are a beginner I would recommend delphi 7 because 8 is the .net version which makes it pretty object oriented.
03-31-2004, 07:19 PM#8
Starcraftfreak
Quote:
Originally Posted by PitzerMike
Normally one would visit www.amazon.com do a quick search there and buy it there...

The latest version is Delphi 8, but if you are a beginner I would recommend delphi 7 because 8 is the .net version which makes it pretty object oriented.
If you use the classes provided with Delphi 7 (or previous versions) it's very object oriented too. It builds every application in a very object oriented structure. The .NET stuff is just here to work with MS .NET Framework.
03-31-2004, 11:54 PM#9
johnfn
VB.NET.

Its verry cool. It's like OOP VB. The only reason you might not like it is you usually have to write out a lot of stuff (environment.threading.(something).sleep is what comes to mind)


Edit: 150th post!! Cool.
04-03-2004, 04:26 AM#10
zepir
Like PitzerMike said, I used VC++ (5.0, then 6.0 and .NET now) for War3CampaignInstaller, War3MapInfoExtractor and W3ZMapEditor (started with 6.0 and now compiled with .NET).

Delphi is cool too. I don't like VB very much mainly because of the syntax that allows you to make many -unwanted- mistakes (variant types, variables definition,...). Java is also nice to use but I don't think it would be a good choice if you want to deal with War3 stuff. Same with Perl (+wxPerl).

Anyway, that's my opinion. If you're asking people because you want to start coding, then I recommand you C++ because it'll open you many doors and is close to Java (and C#).
04-05-2004, 11:05 AM#11
Demon-Reaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by zepir
Like PitzerMike said, I used VC++ (5.0, then 6.0 and .NET now) for War3CampaignInstaller, War3MapInfoExtractor and W3ZMapEditor (started with 6.0 and now compiled with .NET).

Delphi is cool too. I don't like VB very much mainly because of the syntax that allows you to make many -unwanted- mistakes (variant types, variables definition,...). Java is also nice to use but I don't think it would be a good choice if you want to deal with War3 stuff. Same with Perl (+wxPerl).

Anyway, that's my opinion. If you're asking people because you want to start coding, then I recommand you C++ because it'll open you many doors and is close to Java (and C#).
Thanks for the info, but I have used vb for a long time and I am now (only now) starting 2 figure out how c++ comes into vb, as for some reason when I tested one of my programmes it came up with a little box that had all of the triggers being converted, perhaps it was there before and I didn't see it but it still would help if MVS (Microsoft Visual Studio) made a list of vb triggers then the c++ equvilent. Any way I use vb for credits of stuff that I have made for example I have used vb for doing credits for my website! If you want 2 see it just ask me!
04-10-2004, 11:10 PM#12
Tyraxor
I use delphi and devcpp C++ program. And i do programm big stuff with it.
04-10-2004, 11:41 PM#13
BlacKDicK
I like VB 6. It needs the runtime, but MSVC does also and despite that, recent Windows versions already come with it. What I really miss are unsigned integers/longs with VB and pointer stuff. Despite that, VB can be very powerfull with Windows API and external libraries. The IDE is nice and small apps can come out of the box with just a few code lines.

When speed is needed then we need to move to c++. But VB it is still nice to develop the GUI, since you can have all the hard and critical code on an external DLL coded with c++.

I really don't like the managed .NET stuff. I am currently moving to MSVC coz I need more raw power and more speed and that IL and those jitters just don't help. Virtual machines and runtimes I'd rather leave to the Java guys. Thanks god MS still let us have unmanaged code with MSVC7.
04-11-2004, 10:21 PM#14
35263526
I use VB.NET for simple stuff and VC++.NET and C# for more complicated stuff. Oh, and I occasionally use Java for programs that I want to work on multiple platforms (like some of the applications I made for my RH webserver). VB is a pretty good language, no matter what anyone says about it, it just lacks the power of some others.

If you want a good beginner language, go for VB. It does lack power, but that isn't really a top priority if you're learning. On the other hand, if you want to start learning a powerful language, C++ all the way.

I can't really say that much about the speed differences between .NET framework built programs and their older counterparts. To be honest, what little time is lost is more than made up for by the slowness of the human user. It isn't as if .NET programs run at a crawl. In my opinion, you should be wary of .NET because it's a Microsoft standard, but it is promising.
04-12-2004, 12:50 AM#15
zotax
Im currently learning VB, how hard is it to learn C++ after becoming proficent with VB? Or would it be better/easier to learn java?