Moderators, look what youve done AGAIN.

Im surprised at how messy this forum has gotten.
Xaran Alamas and me cleaned it up, put all the stckies kinked in one thread, and now look at it, why do you keep it all messed up, I know people are too lazy to look, but it acts as the ultimate reference.

I think I was doing a great job, then I got kicked for one lousy post, thats why I left, you people suck at moderating, please consider actually doing your jobs.


But on a lighter note, sorta, why dont people ever post theyre scratch models anymore, have you people no shame in ripping models from Blizzard? And have you no Pride for works created from scratch, these are some reasons why I left this community, its going down, at least, the Modelling part is, and by modelling, Im not talking all this lameass geoset merging crap, sure it looks fairly presentable, and it works, and thats all that matters to you people, I respect people like KDEWolf, and Challis, who do theyre own things, the odd merge, but oh well, at least they try and make a difference in this world of cut n paste.

thats my Rant, yes, rant, not flame, lame or spam, my view, my opinion, gehead, ban me, I dont care, but not for no reason, that would judt be proving my point you lazy assed fools.

I'm inclined to go with Andy on this matter, when I was in the staff (same time as Andy) I thought we all did a fairly presentable job, but stuff here really isn't getting moved to the correct forum, it's usually a non staff member who has to bring it to light it's in the wrong forum and even then it sits gathering dust.

I've seen Cookie helping out here and moving posts but very occasionally a moderator.

Andy,

Please tell then what is actually messed up right now, because as a director of the art forums I can change things. If I dont get any Pm's what to change or what is actually wrong with it, I cannot help or fix it.

The moderators task is to keep the faq in one structure (that post with you and xaran). I already pméd the moderators of the art forum (that means xaran included) to compile and recreate it, updating necesarely regardig incorrect or old data. That was like 2 weeks ago. From the other moderators I barely see anything active at all (moderating also includes helping people)

Their other responsibility is to redirect people to their correct answers. But there will always be idiots who cannot read the sticky thing and then ask wildely (lately that has been increased as more casual people flocked into the site through wc3sear.ch , then coming here. Some dont even speak german)

If they cannot read the readme (blame darky for letting out the readme.txt of the downloads) or refuses to read it, why would they read the sticky thing? (WHICH the mods should had named FaQ)

I already do my share with knocking off and tagging and bagging certain people who cannot read the faq or sticky, but they keep flocking . I have done my fair share on moderating it; I expect the moderators to do the rest

Please base your grounds on something more solid that can be checked. Just saying that everything is bad but not pointing what does not really impress me.

PS: doubleposting does not really improve your credibility

peace,

Cookie,
Wc3c Art Director

I'm not sure I got that PM Cookie, at least I don't remember getting it :\

Check your pm; its the official pm regarding the meeting and the chances on the art forum. In one of the changes it said: moderators are in charge of collecting important and relevant shit to compile. Stickies should be cleansed and restructured into a faq.

Either you didnt read it or you didn read it thoroughly

Oh wait, sorry I thought you meant a PM specifically about that. Anyway I'm getting on it right now.

i'm sure more people would do from scratch models if they actually knew how to animate, have you seen TTOR's from scratch models? The models themselves are all fine, tho they tend to lack the details bliz models have, but the animations are pure bullshit, if somone could actually learn how to animate decently, i'm sure there would be many more from scratch models.

Forum de-cluttering of stickies complete Cookie SIR!

....riiight....what I meant was regarding the stickies you lads made, I already cleaned it yesterday, only the sticky of mdl and the main sticky should be reworked. i tagged the 3d studio max guides for a reason (and those were AFTER the meeting)

Your task is now to check the two stickies, update and reconstructure them. or create a new one and then structure them correctly...

get to mirc as using the forum does NOT work. Get on it NOW o_O

Instead of unsticking it and let it fade away, you should just take the essential data of the stickies and rewrite them in a faq, not a sticky thread with links. You CANNOT check wether those are still working or are actually understandable

That's what my original plan was but I had some major problems cause the post got deleted when I first did it. Sorry Cookie.
Also the WC3c IRC server doesn't seem to work for me :-/ plus I've got to go anyway.

shouldn't this thread be moved to site discussion?

I'd say no... it's a local discussion relevent to Modelling forums.

Thankyou everybody, and cookie, I apologise for double posting, I thought it didnt post the second time, please delete the second one.

Why did ANdy get ejected?... I always thought he was doing well... PM me about it if you want

anyhow, about models from scratch, some people have different priorities - I'd say that most want 'presentable' models they can use... usually to accomplish something else...

but making new models from scratch is definetly the way to preserve the game and maintain interest...

Already moved to the scrapyards. Now tell me then what could be improved while Ill whip markus and rightfield so that they would actually do stuff...

And tha_Chump I have absolutely no idea why he got ejected. If it was before march/april then I have no idea.

About why everyone uses geosetmerging and stuff, heck if I create a new model and it doesnt quite fit with the wc3 theme, they all say boo and beeh and .... you get the point

Most models usually fall out of place