My map crashes!!!

My map is crashing and I can't figure out why!!! I get and error message, or it freezes and I have to reboot, and it happens randomly in like the first minute of my map. No, I don't have any periodic triggers or loops runing at that time.

Do you create any units during the beginning stages of your map? Can you screenshot the error and/or give us any more detailed information? "Help it's broken!" isn't quite enough for us to tell you what might be wrong.

I'm not an idiot, If i had anything more than "Help, its broken" I would have told you straight away. I am creating units at the beginning of the game, but I know that's not the problem, because it doens't crash intill well after that. Most of the time it is the error crash (whatever-whatever, click okay to terminate the application) but sometimes its freeze crash, were the computer just locks up, and it never happens at the exact same moment. I havn't gotten a no-error crash(the game just shuts down), just the first two. I don't even have any triggers running at that time, execpt for one small quest trigger that only has three actions! I know that can't be crashing the game, so I'm at a loss as to what is causing it to crash!

Have you tried reinstalling your game after cleaning out the directories entirely?

That shouldn't be nessesary, because I havn't added/modded anything in the warcraft directories.

well forgotten i'm determiend to aid ye! have you htought of it being a usage problem? your comp. coudl have too much usage on the w.e then it crashe due to the overload,this can be sometimes shown by a hazard symbol(on xp)-this happened to me in the past-either delete useless processes or alternatively change it so the pririorty of the we is higher so more usage is allowed to be taken up by it-sorry all i can think of...

If its intermittent and always happens at different points then there's probably something wrong with your computer.

Crashes caused by triggers, incorrect object settings or bad map protect obfuscation will crash the game at a fixed point.

Sometimes clicking a unit with certain abilities can cause a crash. Say you were spawning a unit, like you are, and that unit happened to have the transport ability. Well you must also include transport cargo and all that other junk, or else the second you click that unit, or it recieves an order related to transport, frozen solid :D . If those units you are creating have any abilities, tell us them. Other than that, I have no idea :\
Btw th15, your avatar is interesting...is that like changed using a paint shop or what?

Try to determine everything that happens right ebfore the crash, do any units get killed, you try to use some ability, computer player tries to use some ability, a unit is attacked or selected? Try to run tests many times to observe what happens, for example I kept getting fatal error crash on my map always on the same level, sometimes it happened after 1 unit got generated, sometimes after 2 or 3. Then I figured out that the problem was unit's incompatibility with an ability (Devotion Aura (Neutral Hostile)), turned out later there were a lot of units that caused crash with this spell, so I based it on Devotion Aura (item) instead and most of the units became compatible with that. And then I replaced the units that weren't. Odd thing is that every unit is compatible with it if he knows the spell when the game begins, but if you add the ability to the unit during the game through a trigger like I'm doing, then the compatiblity issues kick in. Check that you're not doing something similar. And like th15 said, if its at random times on all maps (and not just yours), it's your computer.

Another thing is that 3rd-party programs may intefere with it somehow. I don't know the specifics but I get the feeling those 3rd-party auto-replay savers might interfere.

Arksword: It's the portrait of a marine with a skin I made. The HP bar was indeed photochopped.

NOTHING is happening in the map when it crashes, but it always seems to crash around 5 minutes into the game, and there are NO other programs running, not even WE, I start up TFT everytime I test, I don't use the test button. I'm useing a standard editor also, and I didn't change anything either, it just started crashing suddenly. I can't figure out why either, because, I never do anything in a map if I don't fully understand what I'm doing(seriously cuts down on testing time). So I know I don't have anyunits or anything that are causing this, I'm not selecting anything at the time of the crash, I'm starting to think my map is corrupt. And I backed it up after it started crahsing, so the backup is identical to the original. Oh, I really hope it isn't corrupted, I've been working on it for months.

Perhaps you can try CnPing the terrain and triggers and exporting the object data to another map, and seeing if it has the same problem?

Did you try reinstalling your game? It might just be a glitch.

Sounds like an infinite loop to me... That closes the game without an error message.

yes I know, but I DO get an error message, an I don't have any loops. As far as I know, I havn't even changed anything since before it started crashing. I'm just going to leave it alone for awhile, work on other projects, then come back to it later.

Infinite loops are not neccessarily caused by the for loop action. In fact its quite hard to do it with that action, since its controlled by a fixed number.

Inifinite loops can occur when the event of a trigger is set off by an action in the same trigger. For example if a trigger has a"unit enters playable map" event and it creates a unit, it will repeat itself to infinity.