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07-22-2004, 03:02 AM#1
Candy_Warlock
Ok two pics... one modified with ps... i suck at fire

if u know anything on how to help plz say

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07-22-2004, 04:21 AM#2
Bhuddistmonk
*GACKKK* not the 2nd one.....
07-22-2004, 06:15 AM#3
Khadhar'phak
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Originally Posted by Bhuddistmonk
*GACKKK* not the 2nd one.....
I second that statement!
07-22-2004, 09:55 AM#4
Darth_Bob
I did this for the master contest a few months ago:
http://cpanel.besthostbuy.com/~macma...ngonewrong.jpg

Just use the brush for colors then use the liquify filter to blend it and add heat distortion.

I dig the drawing btw.
07-22-2004, 03:19 PM#5
`deathlegionare
i'd say color it first before you add the special effects. then lets see how it looks like
07-22-2004, 04:27 PM#6
icbm1987
DO NOT USE THE FILTERS!!!

For that style of drawing... make action lines like in the comics... take a look at what undertow does.

And the fire... you really just have to get it to feel right. Candleflame or burning cat serves well for reference.

icbm1987
07-22-2004, 06:12 PM#7
Candy_Warlock
Okey it sucks lol! But id look better colored and the fire wud suck less thats a nice fire thing u did bob ^^b theres a filter called heat distortion?
anyhow... i should color it add a speeding background and use filters then the filters wud look ok...

black and white then action lines wud fit.
07-22-2004, 06:22 PM#8
Moon_Lunatic
Candy, I feel this is one of your worst drawings. Everything looks like it was done in 2 seconds. I know this is to help you with the fire effects and all but I think you shoulda spent more time on it. The proportions feel all wrong and the pose doesn't look right. The 2D armor looks crappy as well. Before you get on to the fire, color it. That's why there is a save and undo. When you used the smudge it distorted the sword *to* much.
07-22-2004, 10:13 PM#9
icbm1987
Yeah... What wormskull said sounds like an ok Idea... but please keep the fire under control.

And that is a whacked out comic... lots and lots of violence... and blood.

icbm1987
07-23-2004, 02:51 AM#10
Candy_Warlock
Moon: Plz point out the proportion problems, it might just be a foreshortenin problem if you are reffering to the leg. Maybe the head is too big but apart from those I see no major flaw. The 2d armor are plates but you're right I shudve gave em thickness sumthing I'll do im my next one (i didnt realize that^^). The lineart is very simple but I'm sure that if its colored it'll look better, still I dunt see how its my worst drawing compared to other that I consider worse.

Worm: those are impressive flame pics... I wunt risk burnin down a forest :p and I saw fire... when you have pals dumb enough to burn a park bench with a lighter and spraypaint (lol the guy never saw the teacher coming ^ô^!).

The effects seem so out of context... tss what was I thinking... anyho thanks for your feed back and comments.
07-23-2004, 04:43 PM#11
Lord_Derrag
I agree with the yellow tint thing, as well as the blurring being not so great of an affect. If you are going to stick with the blurring idea you should blur more of the picture.I think that the sword might look better if completely engulfed in dlame but that is just my opinion.Well any ways good luck with the drawing!
07-23-2004, 08:30 PM#12
Moon_Lunatic
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As you can see, the arms are so long, they go way past the knee if measured out. The boobs sagged a little low, the legs are fine, it just doesn't look like she's running.
07-23-2004, 09:17 PM#13
Ogre Crossing
There is nothing wrong with using filters so long as you use them tastefully. The problem is that most people don't.

It is a given that the lens flare should never be used if you want to be taken seriously. Other effects can make the picture look just as filter raped if taken too far. Adobe may as well have put flashing lights on the filter buttons as far as I'm concerned.

I use filters on my work, usually. Not always filters, per se, but sometimes a color adjustment here, a curves tweak there, and a texture somewhere else. Like I've said, there's nothing wrong with it, but just use them at your own discretion.

Anyways, the picture is pretty good. There are some anatomical problems, as Moon_Lunatic has pointed out. The inkwork is alright, but could be improved. I don't know enough about inking to tell you how to go about that, however.

The flames aren't convincing, really. I understand your troubles, as I've always had great difficulty painting realistc flames when I was starting out. A simple thing is that you shouldn't be attempting to make them on a white background. In fact, don't ever color on a white background. I know you see a lot them around in the professionals' work, but they know what they are doing, what the white does to their eyes, and how to compensate for it. When you've been coloring and painting for long enough, you probably will too.

Start with a dark, neutral color. In addition to not distorting your color perception, the dark back color allows you to emphasize and more properly convey highlights, light sources, and other special effects. With white, your brain can't properly comprehend what's going on very easily, as there isn't really such a thing as pure white in nature.

Anyways, I had a couple of minutes, so I made a couple of flames for your blade. These are just quickies; about 5 min each, but they show two possible variations on the flame theme, and the mood they convey. As is common sense, you will note the flames are most intense where the flames originate from.

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07-24-2004, 12:17 AM#14
LegnaKrad
The drawing itself, as stated numerous times before looks nice, but most def. work on the things added on in the second pic.

Ogre- Those look really sweet. Mind posting a little step-by-step demonstration of how you did it? (not necessarily in this post)
07-24-2004, 12:32 AM#15
Candy_Warlock
Moon: Woa! Yea very noticable thats why i had the impression her head was too big.

Ogre: Awesome flame stuff... really pro ^^b I always paint with a toned background canvas layer and take it off when I'm done, for this I didnt since it was done pretty quick.
Teh 2nd one seems doable for me but the first is really awesome even though I know wat u used (low opacity brushes and washes, etc.) I dunt have the knowledge to execute it the way you did... (but i got time ^^) I dont know how to paint thats all. Ehh they all have to have a light blue aura emanating from the fire... is that jst a error or jst sumthing done by accident... or intentional godliness... o.o

Questions: how low is ur opacity and do u keep it at the same level
do you use layers? (i think u use painter... so they dunt have layers...)