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The brotherhood of the axe

09-13-2004, 09:54 AM#1
Bartuc The 1st
well a few momths ago [1 1/2] I started work on a campaign called brotherhood of the axe which is very similar to the orc campaign quite on accident

anyways dorilian said we need to have people intrested and to have them belive it will get done before I can get hosted

so to get work done we need more people
to get more work done,then we can get hosted

um,I'm not going to add the details cause they will be in the maps
but skall is a warrior who was captured by the alliance in the second war
while being looked after [in a cage] he is freed and decides to free the trolls and find salvation [free all the trolls of all races] so he sets of on various tasks and allys with goblins while going through various types of missions including an aos/rpg battle there are sequals planned [about 3] with more cinematics in the later campaigns
it will have some funny clips of like an ogre and a goblin in one room
g- Drink this
o- what is it?
g- just do it
o- *the ogre turns blue and gets bloodlust and prededes to chase the goblin*

it will have funny ending credits with some great little scenes like inuyasha fighting kenshin and vageta steps in to kill both and various things we will decide

we want you to join [especially terrainners who will be busy]
the team includes+ Player_72985
TGN and MuldaV
flaming lama
beantony and well the rest of the team I "let go" cause I don't think they even remembered they were on the team
we need alot more people for such a huge project
requirements
-time
-skill with the worldeditor or atleast the knowlege
-at least one of you should be an experianced at campaigns and good at it
lol
-we need some sort of modeler,skinner ect.

I really need to get hosted soon for the sake of the project so any help is welcomed
my other "site" closed down the map making forums,banned a few of us,ect.
so I lost most of the skins and models but flaming lama is instructed to get/find them anywhere posssible
zul'jin may make a guest apperance

SO LET THUNDER ROLL!
THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE AXE IS AT HAND!!!

btw someone experianced with AI/jass/model programs ect. would be good
09-13-2004, 05:25 PM#2
Fladian
Bartuc... why does your name sounds so familiar?

Uhhum... so, you've already asked being hosted without even having enough people in your project not to mention at least a dozen of work is done? Not the best thing you could do ;) You could always ask to be hosted later, you always should try to show that you, and your team have the determination to work on it.

The story doesn't tell me much, I'm afraid you will have to clear it a bit more up, meaning, add more things. I only know about that orc is going to save trolls, that's all I know.

Nice idea about the small clip with the Ogre and Goblin, if you add things like that, you'll get people interest long enough in the campaign itself ;)
What you said as ending credits it really dropped my expectations -_- As you may see, I'm very fond on anime, but... oh well, I'm not going further in that. But still, it was just an example ^^ But, please, next time an other example ;)

To be honest, even though I can't remember names, I do remember a part of it. When reading a name something is in my mind which sounds familiar, like you. I heard of your name, but I can't remember you. Anyway, the names of the other project members don't sound too familiar to me.

Right, what you ask is reasonable, and nothing too much or too little, I'll save my little *uhhum* there. Do know that modelers might be rare, so don't put your hopes on it, so you won't get dissapointed IF none joins up.

As I may ask, why do you want to get hosted so badly?

But by all means, good luck, you'll probably need it.
-Fladian
09-14-2004, 05:15 AM#3
Bartuc The 1st
thanks for your ummmm.......support?
any ways
tell me what you want instead of that and i'll do it
it is supposed to be FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT

you know me either from posting in DoC or LotC
lol i know u too

ummm......the ogre thing was one example I will have more

posting the entire plot would
1.give alot of the fun away
2.attract more ppl
3.give you a better idea
4.TAKE HOURS

reasons I want to get hosted
1.I need somthing better than 1 thread to get this done
2.to have a place my team can gather
3.have more people learn about my campaign
4.if I post the layout there I only have to do it once,and it takes a very long time

other:
-I have been working my arse off trying to get work done on this

-my request to get hosted also came with a request to put up somthing about us recruiting members,dorilian said I need to
get more work done first,
get people interested
have people think we will finish
[I ain't goin down without a fight]
he gave me a link here if I need team members

-orcs don't save the trolls but they do ally

-modelers were not expected but hope never hurts
[well some times it does but in this case it is not impossible lol]

as soon as I get hosted I will post the layout of everything
[though that includes saying how the maps are layed out so I hope people don't look at thoughs for their sake but whatever]

I need a team bad to help me on this
more experianced people especialy like luthian or darky or some such
even you would be useful

so far beantony is faithful in this [I gave him the stoy layout]
Player_72985 [he's just my friend]
flaming lama always seems angry,ummm the best projects usually do

e-mail me if you want the layout but thats only if your joining cause otherwise it takes the fun out
09-14-2004, 08:47 AM#4
MindWorX
Quote:
e-mail me if you want the layout but thats only if your joining cause otherwise it takes the fun out

How do ppl know if they wanna join, if they don't know what they're making, i'll never join a project that i don't know the story in...
09-14-2004, 01:34 PM#5
Fladian
Don't go for 'my enjoyment' Bartuc ;) That would be near impossible... especially with WCIII uninstalled :P Uhhum... anyway...

Oh yeah, good point. It's just that I can't remember names well. Just like a call teacher from school (his name is Aalbers) Alberto or Albatross.
Anyway like Mind. said, people won't join with just that part of the story.

You don't need hosting for that :\ Look at other projects, they are doing fine while they aren't hosted.

...meh, I don't feel like writing more...-_- I'll either edit or post again later.
-Fladian
09-14-2004, 02:25 PM#6
beantony
Bartuc can post the story here.
But if they already know the whole story, will they play and enjoy this campaign?
If Bartuc can post the Intro story here and people like it, is it enough to get this campaign hosted? And the mapmaking team members will get the whole story... right, bartuc? So they will sure know what will they make.
09-14-2004, 08:43 PM#7
Bartuc The 1st
yes,team members get the whole story
I guess an intro would be fine though it doesn't say much about the game itself

that is exactly my point,if they know the whole story the game won't be fun,and no joy will come from it

beantony is exactly on the same page as I am

here is the Intro.........

Thirteen years ago the horde was shattered under the awsome might of the alliance......

orcs were put into internment camps as lethargy set in and years later thrall,a young orc raised under the tutalage of humans escaped slavery and freed his people......

he was a great gladiator,strategist,and lord of orcs after the cheiften Ogrim Doomhammer died in battle thrall dawned his legendary Black plated armor and enchanted warhammer and ruled the orcs

ogres,another part of the horde were few captured and some never were caught at all
they scattered to distant places forming some small societies and such

goblins.....they were the tricksters and geniouses of the horde and escaped to preform odd jobs and make or work at companies mass produeing their weapontry for the highest bidder

trolls were captured and bruttaly slaughtered or put in smal guarded camps,stuffed in cages,tortured and enslaved,some managed to escape and were hostile to all races even the horde
one troll is missing...........the infamous zul'jin yet to be discovered.........
but our story starts with another troll......one captured and put into a cage......guarded by dwarven grunts
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well that is the prelude the story begins with a cinematic.......one that gives more information

so here it is

skall was a captian of lord zul'jin's army and ally to the horde
he is sitting in a cage in the mountians in lorderon bidding his time
when his captors have a....................party of sorts

ales from kaz modan are dissapated within minuets when an accident happens
a fight breaks loose bettween the dwarves skall's cage is tipped over and he is freed

then mission one starts,he has to kill the drunken dwarves and free the others
[btw this is the forest troll part of the campaign]
the rest of the missions would be giving it away

the genrall over veiw
-rescue bretheren forest trolls
-escape into the mountians
-meet and complete quests for goblins to recive help
-fight an aos battle bettween goblins and dwarves for help from the temple of boom
-explore the temple of boom then enter secret passage to out of the mountians
-fight an underground dwarven city
-escape and help a doomed bunch of trolls and their warlord win a battle with elves then kill the evil warlord who will not let you take his people
-find the coast and battle for the area to make a naval base
-many missions on various contonents and places gathering other races of trolls and goblins
-arrive on kalimdor and ally with thrall's orcs and get a few to help you on missions
-find a fortress and surronding giant oasis of fertil land filled with deamon worrshiping fel orcs then kill the base to take over
-rebuilding cinematic of the fortress


-sequal making 2nd out of 4 they get shorter as you go on except the second one is still pretty long

so..........if you want more I need to make sure this campaign is
a]wanted
b]do-able [team]
c]gets hosted at some point as provement of accomplishment

support needed

beantony can explain details such as the evolving hero thing
[similar to DBZ tribute]
09-14-2004, 09:25 PM#8
Pesmerga
Not to be hyprocritical to Zurg, but your story is by far the crappiest I've ever encountered. If you want to make a campaign that is actually fun to play, you _need_ to come up with something better. Maybe...something original? Perhaps, you're Arthas, and you have to cleanse the land of evil while fighting off your own evil spirits? Oh wait, that's been done.
09-15-2004, 08:39 AM#9
Bartuc The 1st
acctually the thing is like the orc campaign on accident
we never noticed it was like that till about a week ago
my campaign will be more fun
it was actually a mix of all my favorite things from OTHER maps/campaigns
and stuff like the name skall
I could not think of a name
skull was the only name that came to mind and a few other.................orc language choices
and SKALL just seemed to be a good name
med map guy will join to do terrain touch ups and the likehe dosn't know he was accepted till in 3 minuets when he discovers my pm

the story itself came from me wondering what happened to trolls after war2
I mean they would not be let go after ALL that............

you don't HAVE to play the campaign
but for your own enjoyment you should

this is just for ppl who would want to help.................NOT YOU in other words
you go on and insult it
dosn't make a difference
09-15-2004, 11:34 AM#10
beantony
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pesmerga
Not to be hyprocritical to Zurg, but your story is by far the crappiest I've ever encountered. If you want to make a campaign that is actually fun to play, you _need_ to come up with something better. Maybe...something original? Perhaps, you're Arthas, and you have to cleanse the land of evil while fighting off your own evil spirits? Oh wait, that's been done.

Something better? What do you mean by something original? This campaign sounds fine to me. Not original, but we'll make it unique. Many great campaign maps are based on warcraft history, and I think this is one of them.
09-15-2004, 01:52 PM#11
Fladian
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartuc The 1st
you don't HAVE to play the campaign
but for your own enjoyment you should

this is just for ppl who would want to help.................NOT YOU in other words
you go on and insult it
dosn't make a difference

If any of this was directed at me, I have no real interest in WCIII, nor the story. I stick with poems, stories and love. If this was directed to Pesmerga, even though his reaction might sound offensive, try and stay nice ^^ some people just don't like some things.

Even though you might not want to admit it, Pes. is right in saying "it is not *too* original" as a story maker myself (not just anything with Warcraft or modding, but I write stories... and poems) I have to agree with it. True, it doesn't always have to be original to be good, but lately many people are having too unoriginal ideas. But as for my oppinion, I got a slight grudge against projects that are based on movies/anime, books, other games and especially Warcraft itself, yes, there are exceptions (I like Nature's Recall and Lord of the Clans even though they got to do with Warcraft and/or the history)
But don't forget, how... even if you start a project, being the creator (or even partly) usually make yourself proud on the idea and people/you are usually saying "My project is the best" even though that's a bit exargerated in my words, but you get what I mean. Just that they always think their project is good, I know that well enough, I'm a... or was a project leader myself and the owner of a lot of ideas. (Uhhum... a 27 page idea) So, I know what you mean by saying your last sentence Bea.. Beat.. Beauty (it was something like that, your name that is, now please, tell me you're beautiful :P)

But also Bea...uty, by saying your previous post "But if they already know the whole story, will they play and enjoy this campaign?" is like you said. People won't play a campaign they know the story from. With some exceptions of course, but that was not your point :P
Anyway, stories always needs to be told, as detailed as possible without putting spoilers in it, that's the big point. Could be hard to do, but with a little thought, it is possible.

Bartuc, as I recall, you've send an email, right? I'll take a look at it, I saw it this morning a minute before I had to leave for school.
-Fladian
09-15-2004, 03:22 PM#12
beantony
Wow, Fladian, you're such a good moderator Hmm, if that's so... Bartuc, maybe you should write down all the story, a bit detailed, I think. Still, like Fladian said, don't put any spoilers. And I agree with Fladian, don't be rude when you do the respond a thread reply. Stay cool, okay?
09-15-2004, 03:25 PM#13
Fladian
Well, Bartuc remained his cool, at least, more then other people I know *looks at Falco Knight or Oda :P*
But still, he was at a point of getting... a bit pissed ^^
Anyway, Bartuc, if you don't understand what I meant with a detailed story, I can copy-paste one from my own to show you :P

-Fladian

PS. oh yeah, I've send you an email Bart.
09-15-2004, 03:37 PM#14
beantony
Yeah, a little bit like that.
Hope he'll always be cool. B'cause he really like write and reply almost everything in the forum threads ^_^ . Bartuc, has the 1st map finished yet?
09-15-2004, 03:38 PM#15
Fladian
Hehe, same here ;) I reply to about every thread I find in my own section (the part I moderate) even though I recently became a moderator ;)