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Ability Help! In entire map, passive and autocast abilities wont work!

09-26-2004, 03:15 PM#1
GreyArchon
I've been sweating over this problem for quite a while already, and any help would be VERY much appreciated.

In my entire map, no matter what custom ability I make, certain passive attack modifiers and autocast attack modifiers wont work!

Passive Attack mod that does work: Critical Strike
Passive Attack mods that wont work: Envenomed weapons (hero), Cleaving Attack, Bouncing Glaive (hero), etc.

Autocast attack mod that does work: Black Arrow
Autocast attack mods that wont work: Cold Arrows, Searing Arrows, Orb of Annihilation (hero), etc.

Anyone know how to help me with this? It's driving me nuts.. these things just simply wont work! :( Is there any setting that influences abilities such as these?
09-26-2004, 04:01 PM#2
RaeVanMorlock
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyArchon
I've been sweating over this problem for quite a while already, and any help would be VERY much appreciated.

In my entire map, no matter what custom ability I make, certain passive attack modifiers and autocast attack modifiers wont work!

Passive Attack mod that does work: Critical Strike
Passive Attack mods that wont work: Envenomed weapons (hero), Cleaving Attack, Bouncing Glaive (hero), etc.

Autocast attack mod that does work: Black Arrow
Autocast attack mods that wont work: Cold Arrows, Searing Arrows, Orb of Annihilation (hero), etc.

Anyone know how to help me with this? It's driving me nuts.. these things just simply wont work! :( Is there any setting that influences abilities such as these?

What exactly "doesn't work" about it? Are the targets valid? Do the base abilities work?
If you upload your map, I could take a look at it.
09-26-2004, 05:05 PM#3
GreyArchon
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaeVanMorlock
What exactly "doesn't work" about it? Are the targets valid? Do the base abilities work?
If you upload your map, I could take a look at it.

Targets are valid, but base abilities don't work either.

Example: Cleaving Attack doesn't target more enemies, only the primarily attacked unit. So no melee splash damage.
Searing Arrows wont fire. Not even manually. Just the hero's standard arrow flies.
Poison won't appear on the target. Not the buff, not the effect, not the damage, nothing.

In a nutshell, all attacks of all heroes are just executed normally. Without the bonusses of passives or autocasts.
09-26-2004, 05:13 PM#4
th15
Cleaving attack can only be used with attacks that show up as melee in-game (mouseover the attack UI)

Searing arrows can be overidden by orbs. Also, if its art is the same as your hero's attack art, then it won't look any different. It's also possible that the enemy units are spell immune, somehow.

The Moon Glaive ability does precisely dick. It's working fine, it just doesn't do anything.

The new patch makes autocast arrow abilities work different, that may have caused problems with your settings.
09-26-2004, 09:23 PM#5
GreyArchon
Quote:
Originally Posted by th15
Cleaving attack can only be used with attacks that show up as melee in-game (mouseover the attack UI)

Searing arrows can be overidden by orbs. Also, if its art is the same as your hero's attack art, then it won't look any different. It's also possible that the enemy units are spell immune, somehow.

The Moon Glaive ability does precisely dick. It's working fine, it just doesn't do anything.

The new patch makes autocast arrow abilities work different, that may have caused problems with your settings.

What about envenomed weapons, orb of annihilation, etc? Cleaving attack is only used on melee heroes, and autocast arrows wont work even when the hero isnt using an orb.

You've offered explanations for individual cases, but with my case, those aren't the problem. Something in my map is apparently disabling attack modifiers... I just need to find what.
09-27-2004, 04:19 AM#6
garith
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyArchon
What about envenomed weapons, orb of annihilation, etc? Cleaving attack is only used on melee heroes, and autocast arrows wont work even when the hero isnt using an orb.

You've offered explanations for individual cases, but with my case, those aren't the problem. Something in my map is apparently disabling attack modifiers... I just need to find what.

Something ive been wondering is the modification of gameplay constants with the new patch. Try looking through the lot of them. I think blizard might have added something like:

Allow attack modicications False/true

etc. Mabye it turned on with the modded constsnts in yuor map? look through it... mabye its that.. or mabye your abilities have been meddeled with....
09-27-2004, 07:27 AM#7
logik
actually 1.17 patch made it so auto-cast abilities overide the orbs... coz people got sick of getting an orb of lightning for their dark ranger only to discover he black arrows are now munt.
09-27-2004, 11:03 AM#8
th15
The only explanation I have for the other problems you're facing (by other i mean besides the Moon Glaive thing) is that the enemy units have spell immunity for some reason. I doubt you're that stupid though so I guess I really have no answers for you.


You might want to post it up for us to take a look at. Maybe it's something confined to your computer (i.e. corrupted mpqs/slks)
09-27-2004, 07:19 PM#9
GreyArchon
Quote:
Originally Posted by th15
The only explanation I have for the other problems you're facing (by other i mean besides the Moon Glaive thing) is that the enemy units have spell immunity for some reason. I doubt you're that stupid though so I guess I really have no answers for you.


You might want to post it up for us to take a look at. Maybe it's something confined to your computer (i.e. corrupted mpqs/slks)


I highly doubt that, since other maps' abilities will work fine. You guys have given me a few hunches, however, so I'll post my progress after some exstensive testing.