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Orc Spearman - WIP

10-17-2004, 09:05 AM#1
Guest
This is my first skin. It is based of the Bandit and as you can see, still a WIP.
I'd like ideas for adding some other stuff, and mostly, help for the shirt which I'm not satisfied with.
No recolour anywhere. And the only CnP is the face. I tried doing one, but since I use a mouse to draw, it looked awful.
Please CnC. I really want to improve.
10-17-2004, 02:36 PM#2
FatUglyNakedGuy
i like the skin.. but it's kind of sad to know that the face is CnP when the face is actually the best.. lol.

you should change the texture on the shield.. it looks almost..... furry. you could also give more definition to the armor.

overall.. not too shabby for your first skin.
10-17-2004, 11:26 PM#3
Guest
Something should be done about the legs. To differentiate it further. It's looking good so far, just got to make him more different. I suggest adding bones and fur.
10-18-2004, 02:27 AM#4
horusrogue
Yea the CnP part ruins the whole thing....skinners are looked down for Cnping...try your own trist of the orc face
don;t be afraid, we don;t bite as hard as 'Sear
10-18-2004, 11:47 AM#5
garith
Quote:
Originally Posted by horusrogue
Yea the CnP part ruins the whole thing....skinners are looked down for Cnping...try your own trist of the orc face
don;t be afraid, we don;t bite as hard as 'Sear


AHHH! CNP!!!! *hisss hisss* (Holds up crucifix)

DONT CNP! BAD!
ok other than that.. GREAT!
lol, my first ever skin was the orc hunter from the art of waraft book.. i based it off a headhunter though, and it was really just a recolor.... though same idea roughly as this... great work for a first skin! i sugest changing the pants to fur and bone.. look for the techniqe factory for the best fur ive ever seen..... or made (See skinning challenge thread 4 my dryad skin 2 see how it looks) replace the outline of the metal with bone plates and put shin bones arnound the waist (Shin bones look like the classis "doggy bone" thing.. like in cartoons) just go with it.. mess it all up and do it all over again.. learn how to alpha out or clear out aswell... this can make skins great.. as soon as you do this, give me a whisper and ill get this skin 4 my new map! Keep it up! one of the most promising new skinners ive seen in a while! (ignoring CnP.....)

-Garith
10-18-2004, 04:05 PM#6
Guest
Thanks for the advices. I'll try and "furrify" the pants and make the shield look more like wood. For the face, I'll try something although I can't promise anything. I'm really bad at drawing with the mouse.
And I know CnP is frowned upon, which is why I specified that the face was CnPed. Otherwise some people would have claimed that I stole it and that I'm trying to get credits for it.
Expect some updates.
10-18-2004, 10:41 PM#7
THE_END
Thats a very good skin for your first! CONGRATS and welcome to the skinning community!
10-18-2004, 11:18 PM#8
horusrogue
I agree. Welcome. May your stay prove glorious
10-18-2004, 11:44 PM#9
Guest
I looked at your skin closely compared to the original next to it and it seems that the only actual work you did was on the sheild. The face in CnP, and the rest of the skin is just a darker version of the original, like all you did was burn it all slightly to try to make it look different. It looks nice yes, but it's not really anything specail considering that it really probably took five to ten minutes to make.
10-19-2004, 01:00 AM#10
garith
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drifter
I looked at your skin closely compared to the original next to it and it seems that the only actual work you did was on the sheild. The face in CnP, and the rest of the skin is just a darker version of the original, like all you did was burn it all slightly to try to make it look different. It looks nice yes, but it's not really anything specail considering that it really probably took five to ten minutes to make.

Dude! give him a break! thats GREAT for a first skin (Stil ignoring cursed CNP) cmon! cut him some slack.... Great work man.. ignore him!

-Garith
10-19-2004, 02:45 PM#11
Guest
The Drifter - The pants, I did not do anything to. Hence the name "Orc Spearman - WIP" (as in Work In Progress). I didn't change the pants thus far because of lack of inspiration. I plan to work on them later today to add some fur on them and some other leather pieces.

The shield was changed as you noticed. I used some photoshop effects, and even though they look great in the tga. They don't look that 'woody' ingame. As NakedGuy pointed out.

The rest of the skin, is different from the original. Look at the shirt, the belt, the shoulder pads, the knee pads, and the arms of the original bandit. Than look at mine, if you say that all I did was to burn it slightly. Then you are probably blind.

You are right about the CnP, as everyone noticed. And I don't recall once, asking people to praise me for the face. I did specify it was CnP, if I had wanted praises for it, I wouldn't have said it. And even though I haven't uploaded the newest version. I have given him a beard and some other details on his face.

And no, it didn't take five to ten minutes to do.
10-20-2004, 12:09 PM#12
garith
Ok.. thats a given.. this is great for a first skin... but in all honesty.. i would think higher of you is you gave him a stretched flubber for a face then if u CnP'd... its not about getting credit (or a lack of it) its more that you DID it, and that just wrecks a skin. skinners do it for Honor or fun. CnP just wrecks both of that..... ok.. mabye nor fun.. but its very bad.. just dont do it kids!

other than that.. good... change stuff... make a face.. its not actually as hard as you'd think to make a face. I.E: if you get viewer and draw points on his face, then see what one his eyes, mouth corners are etc. then base your skin off that, you'll end up geting the layout of the model face on your skin so it looks smooth.

just build up details.. the nose needs only be a bit of color burn etc.. youll get better eventually. just do it a few times and you'll be suprised at how naturally it comes.
good luck! DONT CNP! remember, the face is the most important part!

-Garith