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MMORPG Campaing

11-18-2004, 03:22 PM#1
Slugge
We need help with a new campaing we are making, its huge! its kind of a MOD really, because its like a new game :D

It starts with that you can choose if you want to be :

-Human
-Dwarf
-Orc
-Undead
-Troll
-Elf

Its about a peasent living on "Green Isle" and he lives a peacefull lives there, but when he get's lvl 10 he decides to leave "Green Isle" when he leaves he can choose beeing many classes :

-Cleric
-Priest
-Warrior
-Shaman
-Sorcress
-Paladin
-Barbarian
-Amazon
-Druid
-Assasin
-Mage
-Necromancer
-Hunter

and so on, just need to find more classes.

Each class should be able to be trained, there should be one trainer for each class in the world, but at different places!

He travels the world and there should be MANY quests around the world, when he finishes all of them he will be given a final quest.

Each time he levels there will be a pop-up menu where you can choose what you want to be upgraded on your hero :

-Agility
-Strength
-Intellligence

Each time he gets to level 10 he will be upgraded, in each class there should be about 10 positions.

Heres and example of a shaman :

- LVL 1 : Training Shaman
- LVL 2 : Commander Shaman
- LVL 3 : Sergeant Shaman
- LVL 4 : King Shaman
- LVL 5 : Emperor Shaman

Countries/Islands/Deserts/Cities :

-Green Isle
-Snowy Isle
-Pataga Isle
-Farland (Surori City)

In some of the larger cities there should be "Things to do", there you are able to win items of rubles (money), the "Things to do" is mini-games!

Warrios should not be able to use staff, or anything like that... he should only be able to use warriour stuff. And im trying to work out a system that on one place you use helmet, on another gloves, on another belt and so on and so forth!

Party ability, you should be able to join party with some heroes/units around in the map :

-Vampire
-Lizzard


You can contact me on :

- MSN : [email protected]
- AIM : Siugge (Yes that an i not L)
- ICQ : 342-278-318
- Yahoo : Slugge2004

Hope you like the idea and will contact me as soon as possible, its currently only 2
persons working on it.

We will need :

-2 Modelers
-2 Skinners
-2 Object editors
-Voice Actors
11-18-2004, 03:53 PM#2
Draenei-Seer
Change the Summoner's name to Sorcerer and have just 3 - 5 positions MAX, I.e. Apprentice Shaman, Novice Shaman, Master Shaman. 10 positions is way too much :o This campaign is anyway going to be big one huh? Gonna take much time and should not become so big that it lags alot even on the good computers! Anyway, you seem to have some experience on campaigns, good.
You said you already have 2 persons in team? Who are they ^_^ (just curious)
11-18-2004, 03:58 PM#3
Slugge
well okay i can do what you said, yeah 10 is too much :D

me and : c3o, he is very good with triggers and terrain :D
11-18-2004, 04:05 PM#4
Draenei-Seer
Hehe ^_^ Anyway, I coild maybe help you a little with terrains.. ^_^ But im already working in a WoW project and still for a while in Unsung Legends, gotta finnish few maps. Still sometimes when I have finnished current maps and waiting for a new job (that usually comes very quick) I could make some mapping for ye! ^_^
11-18-2004, 04:08 PM#5
Slugge
Sure, but please add me to msn, aim or icq then.... if you have any of thoose!
11-18-2004, 04:13 PM#6
Draenei-Seer
Only Yahoo..
11-18-2004, 04:23 PM#7
Slugge
and where can i get yahoo messenger? its best cooporating on a Live-Chat :D
11-18-2004, 04:34 PM#8
Draenei-Seer
You can get it at www.yahoo.com there click the Messenger, if I remember right it was somewhere there to download it
11-18-2004, 04:56 PM#9
ufo
I think you misunderstood something slugge (was it right?).....

A MMORPG is a: Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game

But sounds really cool ^_^


But for god sake, i don't have any good WE skills


i can a BIT (VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VEEERY VERY VERY VERY BIT!!!) cinematic just not good at terrainning
11-18-2004, 04:59 PM#10
Slugge
Well, we need a lots of help with cinematics! so just add me and ill talk to you....

we have currently noone that knows cinematics so :D

And i know what MMORPG is, but i ment this is kind of something like that... but with only 1 player :\
11-18-2004, 05:04 PM#11
Draenei-Seer
Hehe, I have some prob about the cinematics with ufo! I've done 2 cinematics that were like 2 minute long and they sucked, one was very damn simple: It went trough a great red hallway somewhere in a great old style orcish citadel where ran demons and orcs here n there until you came to the end of the hallway where a guard came to you and said: You may pass and then it moved away, the gate opened and moved a bit forward the plains and that's it... Other was even shorter and more simple. A Demon came trough the portal and orc from somewhere in hell and they talked for a while some trash I dun remember then they went back.. So Im 100% terrainer lol, I luckily can do even basic AoS triggers...
11-18-2004, 07:09 PM#12
Draenei-Seer
Here be da map
11-18-2004, 07:27 PM#13
Fladian
WHOA!
Hold your horses out here, gentlemen.
I saw this thread not much longer after it was made, but seeing as I was eating at that moment - not to mention the bad condition of my right arm these last few days. Who said going to school was healthy? It only caused my arm condition to get worse, not that I am heavily complaining about the educational, since I'm not, but I'm definitely sure that there is a law that permits students from being injured on school by normal educational studies (too much details, right?) - I didn't really expect it to be filled with replies so quickly, not to mention that anyone with at least a decent word came through it. Where in the world is Satanas anyway? I know that I am the moderator out here, but it's not that I don't have a job or anything...

Let's see... where to start *eyes role out towards all sides*
Let's start by saying to Draenei-seer that his signature might be too big. I suggest you shorten it before you get any word from someone with a higher rank then I do. I also would like to add that you shouldn't double post. You can easily use the edit button to attach something. But that's enough about you...

Let's get to the main topic out here, which might be a pain, for both Slugge as myself. I also wonder how long I will be able to keep typing in this state anyway...

The project is HUGE! I've called out to such projects for who-knows-how-long. A project of this size will barely be even lifted from the ground. I am sick and tired of people claiming that they are able to hold on such a huge project, I heard it more times then I can remember - which isn't that surprising, since I forget most of the threads by tomorrow, if not earlier - out here in the Team Gathering forum (and not just here) even before I became the one who is supposed to be moderating this area (ain't I doin' a great job? :P) or didn't even come here (too) often.

The features you placed in it, are 'not' impossible, I'll do admit that, but I am clear to say that only one, or two, will finish, from the... uh... 10, you said? Maybe more, maybe less, but not all will be finished. It is just too big for it.

The idea is excellent, I admit that, I've had an idea similar to it often enough as did other people, but seeing my limits - and theirs - I either canceled the project, or told them it. Just like I am doing, right now.

Bah... am I already at my limit? Well, let me finish this fast then, I'll probably miss out some parts I will have to say, but my health is a priority I set higher then the moderation of this forum section.

So, to cut it short, this project is too big. You don't seem to me you're the most experienced guy either. I for one, - not to brag, but a fact is a fact - am one of the only (most) experienced guy who visits this forum section. I am not the most experienced from them all, let me get this straight - since I am not, I'm not even close - but I probably am one of them, who visits the Team Gathering section. I know what people are able to do, and what they are not. I can pretty much see in the direction of your post how good you are in gathering a team as well.
By asking "I need a lot of people" pretty much sealed your faith anyway. 99% of the time (if not more) projects fail because of an overdosis of members. Like Flamey, Alby, Santa and I have been discussing a while ago (somewhere out here, in a thread, don't ask me which, since I really can't remember) that if there are a lot of members, it is bad. The less amount, usually leads to success. In this case, it wouldn't really matter, seeing as I don't see that the project will have any future.
I expected you to have seen that as well Ufo.

But like I said, I was nearing my limit at the last paragraph (damn, why?! Why?!) I can easily go over it - no sweat - but my health is my first - actually, second, but the thing that comes on the first place has nothing to do with this forum, nor any of the forums I attend to - priority above anything else. So, I am forced to keep it with this, in the hope that I made my point.

I wonder if ice softens the pain... I'm pretty sure something hot is better for it though...
-Fladian
11-18-2004, 07:37 PM#14
Slugge
Okay i will make this reply short too :D

first of all, i have never EVER quit a project, and yes i know this is big and yes i know i typed i needed alot of people,but i think you get it wrong.

I need like, 2 modelers. no triggerers, no terrainers, 2 skinners, 2 voice actors, 2 object editers.

This is not that much of people, because only some of this will actually make on the map, and as its a campaing we wont have to wait to be sent the map and so on.

And yes, i know this will take time... i will do so that i will release the map in small doses, when green isle and all the triggers on it is finished i will release first version.... so for every island, country, desert and so on is finished i will release it!

Fladian if you want to help in then please do! i need experienced people on this!

and we wont release all the systems i have told you at the same time, we will do it one by one and release as we feel like it!
11-18-2004, 08:16 PM#15
Fladian
*shakes his right arm a bit*
...okay, it's a goner right now... seems I won't be able to finish my post with 2 arms. Let's see how far I'll get then...

I heard multiple people say, "I've never quiet a project before" but within days, I saw the project, lying down, dead on the street. As you might understand, I do not trust or rely on most words anymore after all what I've seen on wc3c, and more forums. And I've been here for some time. (and I am still sure that my join date is incorrect)
So, I don't think I got it wrong. I've seen more then most people believe, or can imagine. But, I must rely on the facts that have been given Slugge.

2 Modelers? You DO know that modelers are extremely rare, don't you? Every single project asks for modelers, preferable more then 1. Though it happens more then often that they don't even are able to get one. Don't count on any. I don't think any modeler with quite some sense will join a project from a size like this, from someone they don't know. The less experienced ones, will probably join, but I doubt you'll even get a blink from someone with any decent experience. In this, I can be wrong, I have multiple contacts regarding modelers where I base my information from, but I cannot speak for all.

Voice actors? Well, not much of a comment here, but voice actors (and testers) are supposed to be recruited as the very last job. Not earlier.
I don't really understand what you mean with "Object editers," seeing as everyone who has a higher intelligence then a glass of water knows how to do that.

Like your words here, I have heard them before as well. As I recall, this hasn't been too long ago. (Or am I messing something up in my head? Yeah, probably) Dark Intentions tried to do it that way too. Dark Intentions went on a while good, until it reached the trigger stages. Out there, it failed... as you can see. Falcoknight seem to be willingly to go on, but I am not sure who is willing to support him.

"And yes I know it will take time," you say? Naturally, every project takes time, the larger, the more times it takes. That is not much of a surprise, but projects as large as these, often breaks down earlier, either because the lack of interest from the members of the team, the lack of interest of the project leader, a sudden stop (which oftens refer to a lack of interest as well) and more of such.
It is good to release it all early and stuff, but... ah... well, we'll see that eventually, I guess...

No, I am not able, nor willing to help, Slugge. The bad condition of my arm forces me to stop most things, and even place my own project on hold. Not to mention that I am searching for a job desperatly and that probably won't do my arm any good either. School can be quite a pain if they force you to find a job...
The other reason is, which most people know, I am at the point of leaving any moment from this forum. Not because I lost my interest in this forum, no, not at all, I still even attend to 8 different forums (okay, SCH is offline right now, but still) with wc3c as one of my 3 favo's. Anyway, seeing as it will be unpredicatable, I will not give anyone false hope of joining and perhaps even leaving the next day. Not only will that be bad for their project, as will it give me a sort of a bad feeling.
The last reason, should be clear. I have no real faith in this project, as I've clearly shown. Take this as no offense, but the other 2 reasons are the largest reasons.
...the final reason is a lack of time. I got quite some problems regarding the amount of free time I have available.

*sigh*
I'm off... I'm gonna watch a few more anime eps. and I'm off to bed afterwards... g'night folks.
-Fladian