Nice mod, first impressions

Recently discovered this mod and played against a friend. The new buildings and models are very good, especially Chaos, but we only played Chaos and Trolls yet. :8 Some comments :

- Chaos seems way more polished than Trolls. Trolls still have several old TFT buildings, they have about four units too many and all of them look the same. It is just not a very interesting race compared to Chaos.

- Chaos gets three minions and one lava spawn at the start. The lava spawn cannot build, mine or harvest anything and seems to be there only to rush other players.

- Chaos lumber generating building costs lumber itself and you start without one. If you aren't careful, you can get stuck on this and be forced to surrender.

- Chaos has this tiny tier 3 chaos raider in the Pit of the Forsaken next to the gosu looking punisher, and the difference in graphics and impressiveness is huge.

- Trolls have exactly 1 air unit, which fires once per year upon a target directly underneath it. And I thought TFT air sucked.

- I don't really know what I am supposed to make for damage at tier 1.5-2 with Chaos. Aside from the old tier 1 chaos warriors, you get some spellcasters, a siege unit and the dubious Abyss units. The time gap between the basic chaos warriors and the tier 3 punishers and chaos raiders seems pretty large and fairly empty.

- The Chaos way of lumber harvesting with refineries is very interesting and I'd certainly like to know how it works. :8 Feel free to share the secret. :)

Will play some more and also try out the other races, but already thanks a lot for the fun mod!

Hehe nice that you liked it, to ansver your comments:

- Trolls is a race I created together with Zanmato when we founded this mod, and it's more or less his race. If you don't like it, then don't play it. I know it needs polishing but TToR is never final. :P

- It's a bug in the alpha patch which is addressed in the next patch

- same

- Creating new models takes time. I've prioritied other models instead since Chaos already have loads of custom models and isn't exactly in the desperate need of new ones comparing to some other races.

- To tell you the truth, I hate air unit. There is a reason there isn't that many of them in TToR. But the bomber is this way because it has to be balanced. It has a rather good damage despite of it's attack speed. Ever tried assulting someones base from behind with bombers in multiplayer? If you havn't then I don't think you realize their potential yet.

- Upgrade the chaos warriors weapons and the Hellfire Imps, then get summoners. Loads of summoners. The Chaos Warriors are so strong that they're at the same level as many tier 2 melee units of the other races.

- It uses an in-built jass script (jass is the triggers programming language) which is hardcoded into the blizzard.j together with the rest of the triggered spells. RodOfNOD made that system. He's the current TToR script guy, together with AIAndy.

Thanks for the comments anyway. Keep in mind that it's a Alpha version and it's not done yet. ;)

Of course, who am I to play this mod for a couple of hours and post bugs expecting them to be unknown to everyone else. :8 Sorry.


True, but just increasing the size of the chaos raider or shrinking the punisher would help loads. The raider has about the size of a chaos warrior and looks like a joke next to the much larger punisher, while in fact it is supposed to be The Uber Melee Unit.


I had three and they died to creeps before I ever saw the enemy army, let alone his base. All I can say about them is they kept other units from taking damage in their place and burn nicely when damaged. ^_^ It reminded me a lot of TFT gyrocopters. But I'll try them on bases someday.


That will certainly help.

Though I wonder about the imps (the lavaspawn, right?) : iirc they are produced at the Halls/Warrens/Inferno and I don't think anyone (or me) would ever build more than one of those at their base just to get a tier 1 unit that becomes redundant at tier 3. Perhaps move them to the Pit?


Ah. In other words, impossible for mortals like me. :8

Eagerly awaiting the next update, though I must say it's already rather complete and bug-free for an alpha.

If you know all the tricks and secrets to the Trolls, then you will think some other thoughts my friend ^_^

Take a look at our strategy guide and it will tell you some more about the races, it will also give you some hints.

Here is a sentence writen about Trolls:
The savage trolls are a very varied race which has their army focused on heavy land forces

Well, i haven't played this much but i have noticed that the snotling merchant's bribe spell only worked twice in the game for me, at level one. All the rest of the time he did his nifty thing, took my gold and nothing else happened. This seems to be quite a bad bug.

Bug? Since when was it possible to bribe everyone in the universe? Guys might take your money but still not do as you say. It's a chance you have to take. :P

I hope that's included in the tooltip =P

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